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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2020, 01:11:30 AM »
His criminal background will be bought up at any trial in this case, so it should be discussed.


I keep saying as follows;
1. There were breakins reported in the past in that neighborhood.  [I read so in the news]
2. He broke/entered into a home under construction.
3. Some ppl in the neighborhood thought these breakins  were related.
Most prior acts are not allowed to be brought up at trial. Have no idea where you are getting your info from.
There is no evidence he broke into the home under construction. The video shows the opposite.
Thinking something does not give you the right to chase someone down with guns. That is not stand your ground.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2020, 01:11:56 AM »
They didn't think this out. There was no end game.
+100 crazy to think that people like this are law enforcement officers...
No critical thinking skills.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2020, 01:12:29 AM »


If it was me checking out the construction zone they would not have chased me.

And who says there were break ins in the neighborhood? And if there were, who says a guy looking at a construction zone is the guy? And if he is the guy, you don't chase him with guns.

And if you do chase the guy, and he doesn't want to talk to you, you have no right to detain him or trap him.

Some say, under Georgian Law they do have a right.



And I'm sure they ran a quick background check before they gunned him down

Totally out of context.


I'm not justifying or suggesting these guys had some good judgment or that sort.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2020, 01:18:22 AM »


Most prior acts are not allowed to be brought up at trial. Have no idea where you are getting your info from.
There is no evidence he broke into the home under construction. The video shows the opposite.
Thinking something does not give you the right to chase someone down with guns. That is not stand your ground.

It's called rule 404.
I'm not a lawyer, but this can get complicated and  many times this ends up being at the discretion of the judge.



Again, every state has different laws.

In Georgia there is a law that allows citizens arrest.

Just FYI: in brooklyn there are many watch groups that routinely chase down suspects and legally do so.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2020, 01:20:23 AM »



Some say, under Georgian Law they do have a right.


Totally out of context.


I'm not justifying or suggesting these guys had some good judgment or that sort.

Except their bad judgement left a man dead.

There is a chance that had they been arrested immidiately they wouldn't have been convicted for murder, or even manslaughter, or anything. The burden of proof is high and maybe they would have beaten the charges.

However the fact that they killed the guy was so blatantly wrong. I mean even if they caught him stealing red handed, which even according to your worst case they didn't, he doesn't deserve to be chased down with a bunch of guns.

But in a sense, what was even worse was that it immidiately got covered up and ignored. If not for the video we aren't having this conversation.

All your taanos may be enough for them to beat a murder charge, but it doesn't change the fact that he was killed unnecessarily, more than likely for being black, and the likes were exonerated without even a cursory investigation.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2020, 01:21:57 AM »
It's called rule 404.
Did you read it?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2020, 01:21:58 AM »





Just FYI: in brooklyn there are many watch groups that routinely chase down suspects and legally do so.

With guns?

On the rare occasion they got physical, they got arrested themselves.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2020, 01:24:57 AM »
In Georgia there is a law that allows citizens arrest.
Do you know what the law states? They must witness a crime being committed. What crime did they see him commit?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2020, 01:28:12 AM »

Except their bad judgement left a man dead.

There is a chance that had they been arrested immidiately they wouldn't have been convicted for murder, or even manslaughter, or anything. The burden of proof is high and maybe they would have beaten the charges.

However the fact that they killed the guy was so blatantly wrong. I mean even if they caught him stealing red handed, which even according to your worst case they didn't, he doesn't deserve to be chased down with a bunch of guns.

But in a sense, what was even worse was that it immidiately got covered up and ignored. If not for the video we aren't having this conversation.

All your taanos may be enough for them to beat a murder charge, but it doesn't change the fact that he was killed unnecessarily, more than likely for being black, and the likes were exonerated without even a cursory investigation.
I am not disagreeing with the fact that they should've maybe acted differently, in hindsight they would most like agree with you.

If you think of it from a perspective of this actively happening it's not to hard to understand why it did.

From the evidence available to the public, I  don't see the fact that he was killed because he was black, maybe, happens to be he was black.

Prosecutors are required to
"Generally, the prosecution has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. But while a defendant isn't required to prove innocence in order to avoid conviction, the prosecution doesn't have to prove guilt to the point of absolute certainty."
Suddenly for the prosecutors to take a 180% turn based on media attention is wrong.

In this case from the evidence publicly available they will have a hard time proving it.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2020, 01:32:11 AM »

With guns?

On the rare occasion they got physical, they got arrested themselves.
Only and usually when media reports it.
The police usually dont care,  but must act when reported.
Do you know what the law states? They must witness a crime being committed. What crime did they see him commit?
Trespassing is a crime regardless if charges are pressed. It's up to the owner of he actually wants to press charges. 
Just FYI: I have a freind that was arrested in NYC some years ago  for trespassing on a construction site but was never ultimately prosecuted.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2020, 01:32:21 AM »
Suddenly for the prosecutors to take a 180% turn based on media attention is wrong.
They took 180 turn because they were getting preferential treatment. They took 180 turn because that is what the evidence showed.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2020, 01:32:47 AM »
I am not disagreeing with the fact that they should've maybe acted differently, in hindsight they would most like agree with you.

If you think of it from a perspective of this actively happening it's not to hard to understand why it did.

From the evidence available to the public, I  don't see the fact that he was killed because he was black, maybe, happens to be he was black.

Prosecutors are required to
"Generally, the prosecution has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. But while a defendant isn't required to prove innocence in order to avoid conviction, the prosecution doesn't have to prove guilt to the point of absolute certainty."
Suddenly for the prosecutors to take a 180% turn based on media attention is wrong.

In this case from the evidence publicly available they will have a hard time proving it.
A man getting killed for *at worst* being *suspected* of burglary is not something which gets prosecuted? On what planet? Every heard of "a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich"?

Again, a white person checking out a construction site, even if there had been burglaries, does not get chased down by these cowboys and you know it.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2020, 01:34:02 AM »
A man getting killed for *at worst* being *suspected* of burglary is not something which gets prosecuted? On what planet? Every heard of "a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich"?

Again, a white person checking out a construction site, even if there had been burglaries, does not get chased down by these cowboys and you know it.
Was he indicted by a grand jury?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2020, 01:34:38 AM »
Trespassing is a crime regardless if charges are pressed. It's up to the owner of he actually wants to press charges. 
Just FYI: I have a freind that was arrested in NYC some years ago  for trespassing on a construction site but was never ultimately prosecuted.
Unless you are the owner you have no idea if he is trespassing. So I will ask you again what crime did they SEE him commit?
Are you now saying they went after him for trespassing?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2020, 01:35:35 AM »
Was he indicted by a grand jury?
You mean them?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2020, 01:36:45 AM »
Unless you are the owner you have no idea if he is trespassing. So I will ask you again what crime did they SEE him commit?
Are you now saying they went after him for trespassing?
Obviously they thought differently and thought they ahd a reason to believe so.
His criminal background will be bought up at any trial in this case, so it should be discussed.


I keep saying as follows;
1. There were breakins reported in the past in that neighborhood.  [I read so in the news]
2. He broke/entered into a home under construction.
3. Some ppl in the neighborhood thought these breakins  were related.
I dont know what they were thinking, I can only repeat what was reported  there actions were based off.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #76 on: May 10, 2020, 01:37:36 AM »
You mean them?
Yes, were they indicted by a grand jury? Or did the prosecutors just decide to press charges?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #77 on: May 10, 2020, 01:39:30 AM »
He didn't die because he was black. He died because he picked a fight with a couple of aggressive morons. I'd bet there are dozens of these homicides every day unfortunately.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #78 on: May 10, 2020, 01:39:49 AM »
Obviously they thought differently and thought they ahd a reason to believe so. I dont know what they were thinking, I can only repeat what was reported  there actions were based off.
They thought wrong then. Thinking you have a right to citizens arrest does not past mustard.

You don't find it odd a group was chasing them? Were they out on patrol?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #79 on: May 10, 2020, 01:41:55 AM »
He didn't die because he was black. He died because he picked a fight with a couple of aggressive morons. I'd bet there are dozens of these homicides every day unfortunately.
His crime was he was black which resulted in his death. Anyone who has been persecuted for who they are should understand this more than anyone unless ...
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