Minyan Guidance In Your Community

[S209]

Do you feel this way about vaccines too?

Sure

[aygart]

Sure

Is it your experience that when people say they are making an informed decision that it is truly so? I have found that for many the information they have used to "come to their decisions" is really misinterpreted to fit what they want it to mean.

[S209]

Is it your experience that when people say they are making an informed decision that it is truly so? I have found that for many the information they have used to "come to their decisions" is really misinterpreted to fit what they want it to mean.

Of course, so that is why I asked if they are at least making the decision in consultation with doctors. If they are, although they will be more likely to reach decisions that they are biased towards, at least they will have a chance to hear from actual experts and hear about potential pitfalls and dangers. Certainly medical guidance has swayed many people's preconceived opinions on this, like my own and yours. I don’t think either of us took this too seriously until much later than others on these forums, but still much earlier than many others.

[Kobe Bryant]

Of course, so that is why I asked if they are at least making the decision in consultation with doctors. If they are, although they will be more likely to reach decisions that they are biased towards, at least they will have a chance to hear from actual experts and hear about potential pitfalls and dangers. Certainly medical guidance has swayed many people's preconceived opinions on this, like my own and yours. I don’t think either of us took this too seriously until much later than others on these forums, but still much earlier than many others.

If only we did the same thing when it came to everything else regarding this crisis and heard from some economic, mental health, and education experts as well, to make an informed decision when it comes to public policy.

[ari3]

Pure curiosity. Are they discussing it with medical professionals or it’s a hergesh call?


There is nothing wrong with making an informed decision, whether or not I agree with it

I guess it's ok to question rabbonim that allow minyonim but not c"v question those that are against them

[Lurker]

I guess it's ok to question rabbonim that allow minyonim but not c"v question those that are against them

Who said you can't question them?

[S209]

I guess it's ok to question rabbonim that allow minyonim but not c"v question those that are against them

What are you talking about?

[S209]

If only we did the same thing when it came to everything else regarding this crisis and heard from some economic, mental health, and education experts as well, to make an informed decision when it comes to public policy.

Considering we are discussing a medical question I think just a medical expert should be sufficient

[aygart]

Considering we are discussing a medical question I think just a medical expert should be sufficient

Although the effects of what we are doing should all be taken into consideration as well. This was the reasoning behind allowing liquor stores to be open. It was on the advice of experts on addiction.

[aygart]

Of course, so that is why I asked if they are at least making the decision in consultation with doctors. If they are, although they will be more likely to reach decisions that they are biased towards, at least they will have a chance to hear from actual experts and hear about potential pitfalls and dangers. Certainly medical guidance has swayed many people's preconceived opinions on this, like my own and yours. I don’t think either of us took this too seriously until much later than others on these forums, but still much earlier than many others.

I wonder how much of the attitude of not listening to the doctors is a result of the anti-vaxxer movement?

[S209]

What are you talking about?

I guess it's ok to question rabbonim that allow minyonim but not c"v question those that are against them

I guess it’s ok to murder cats and puppies, but not c”v murder hornets

[good sam]

Dear Mispalelim,
It is with tremendous gratitude to Hashem that we have reached the opportunity to embark on our 
progressive return to our sacred tefillah b’tzibbur. The Agudah has announced guidelines to reopen 
Minyanim, and we will IY”H begin this process with strict adherence to those requirements.  
Outdoor minyanim will be allowed only when the following guidelines are followed with 100% 
compliance:  
 Minyanim must be held outdoors, in an area not seen by passersby or local traffic 
 Minyanim should not be held in a place where it will disturb the neighbors or bring about 
unwarranted attention due to יבה . א
 Minyanim may not have more than 14 men above 13 years old  
 Absolutely no children under the age of 13 should be in attendance 
 Chairs should be set up to mark where mispalelim will sit 
 Social distancing of 8’ (or 6’ at the minimum) must be upheld  
 No compromising may be made during inclement weather  
 Mispalelim are requested to please bring their own siddurim 
 Masks must be worn at all times  
 There is to be no congregating before or after davening  
 The same group should meet for every tefillah  
 Anyone that had contact with a COVID‐19 positive patient, is feeling ill, or has had any symptoms 
of COVID‐19 in the last 14 days must stay home!  
 Driving to minyanim should be kept to the bare minimum  
 When leaving the minyan, it should be done in intervals to avoid congregating   
 A gabbai must be appointed to ensure adherence to all of these rules
Before any minyan for davening together is formed, the gabbai must speak to one of us to review the 
above procedures. If any question comes up, please reach out to one of us and we can decide the best 
course of action.   
Halachic pointers:  
 A yard encircled with a fence is the optimal place for davening  
 If this is not feasible, the tzibbur should daven facing a wall that is in the direction of Mizrach 
 A minyan on two sides of the street should not be made  
It is our sincere hope that we will soon be able to reunite as an Agudah Achas in our beloved Batei 
Midrashim. 
 

[JMHO]

Dear Mispalelim,
It is with tremendous gratitude to Hashem that we have reached the opportunity to embark on our
progressive return to our sacred tefillah b’tzibbur. The Agudah has announced guidelines to reopen
Minyanim, and we will IY”H begin this process with strict adherence to those requirements. 
Outdoor minyanim will be allowed only when the following guidelines are followed with 100%
compliance: 
 Minyanim must be held outdoors, in an area not seen by passersby or local traffic
 Minyanim should not be held in a place where it will disturb the neighbors or bring about
unwarranted attention due to יבה . א
 Minyanim may not have more than 14 men above 13 years old 
 Absolutely no children under the age of 13 should be in attendance
 Chairs should be set up to mark where mispalelim will sit
 Social distancing of 8’ (or 6’ at the minimum) must be upheld 
 No compromising may be made during inclement weather 
 Mispalelim are requested to please bring their own siddurim
 Masks must be worn at all times 
 There is to be no congregating before or after davening 
 The same group should meet for every tefillah 
 Anyone that had contact with a COVID‐19 positive patient, is feeling ill, or has had any symptoms
of COVID‐19 in the last 14 days must stay home! 
 Driving to minyanim should be kept to the bare minimum 
 When leaving the minyan, it should be done in intervals to avoid congregating   
 A gabbai must be appointed to ensure adherence to all of these rules
Before any minyan for davening together is formed, the gabbai must speak to one of us to review the
above procedures. If any question comes up, please reach out to one of us and we can decide the best
course of action.   
Halachic pointers: 
 A yard encircled with a fence is the optimal place for davening 
 If this is not feasible, the tzibbur should daven facing a wall that is in the direction of Mizrach
 A minyan on two sides of the street should not be made 
It is our sincere hope that we will soon be able to reunite as an Agudah Achas in our beloved Batei
Midrashim.

What shul?

[good sam]

What shul?

A shul in monsey, rather not say.

[S209]

[mochjas]

Cuomo said today that by Shavuot shuls should be able to open. They are working on guidelines and will have it in the next couple of days

[Sam Finkelstein]

Cuomo said today that by Shavuot shuls should be able to open. They are working on guidelines and will have it in the next couple of days

BH. Is it just me, or if the Shul buildings are able to open, why can't the maximum capacity be proportionate?

[ari3]

Cuomo said today that by Shavuot shuls should be able to open. They are working on guidelines and will have it in the next couple of days

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1861614/watch-it-cuomo-says-shuls-can-open-for-shavuos-with-15-people-and-social-distancing.html

what was that about upstate at the beginning?

[mochjas]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1861614/watch-it-cuomo-says-shuls-can-open-for-shavuos-with-15-people-and-social-distancing.html

what was that about upstate at the beginning?

yea I actually watched it now and the question was for upstate so who knows....

[ari3]

yea I actually watched it now and the question was for upstate so who knows....

Maybe because in many parts of NYC they are already open