Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread

[ExGingi]

The Covid test requirement should follow. (Can someone explain to me why you need a Covid test to leave the country?!?)`

Let me remind you of a theme I've harped on before but didn't mention recently: COVID-19 is the politician's and bureaucrat's opium. It gives them cover to make rules, regulations and limitations on the populace with little or no push-back.

The COVID test on exit is just a symptom of the above (though ostensibly they might make it an airline or destination requirement - isn't that the case now, that it's a requirement based on the destination?).

[Dan]

The Covid test requirement should follow. (Can someone explain to me why you need a Covid test to leave the country?!?)`

Who needs a test upon exit?
Isn't that waived for people who are vaccinated or recovered?

[Ergel]

Who needs a test upon exit?
Isn't that waived for people who are vaccinated or recovered?

Yes, it's waived for vaccinated/recovered. Doesn't help for my kids and with the new rule that a free test is no longer accepted - I will need to pay for a bunch of tests when we leave

[Dan]

Yup, that's absurd.

[TBD]

Yes, it's waived for vaccinated/recovered. Doesn't help for my kids and with the new rule that a free test is no longer accepted - I will need to pay for a bunch of tests when we leave

You don't NEED to pay, it's your decision
Follow @ExGingi advice

[oldguy]

Yes, it's waived for vaccinated/recovered. Doesn't help for my kids and with the new rule that a free test is no longer accepted - I will need to pay for a bunch of tests when we leave

Waived for vaccinated/recovered is only for Israeli? or if i got out of bidud because of a positive antibody test I also don't need?

[ExGingi]

Let me remind you of a theme I've harped on before but didn't mention recently: COVID-19 is the politician's and bureaucrat's opium. It gives them cover to make rules, regulations and limitations on the populace with little or no push-back.

The COVID test on exit is just a symptom of the above (though ostensibly they might make it an airline or destination requirement - isn't that the case now, that it's a requirement based on the destination?).

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001372785

[JlmBoi]

Follow @ExGingi advice

What advice?

Isn't that the case now, that it's a requirement based on the destination?

I believe not

[yesitsme]

What advice?

This

In case you didn't realize, it is Friday, which is traditionally a day for blabla on DDF. And that post drips of sarcasm...

[tavster]

Yes, it's waived for vaccinated/recovered. Doesn't help for my kids and with the new rule that a free test is no longer accepted - I will need to pay for a bunch of tests when we leave

It's definitely annoying but still makes sense to me that people who are not vaccinated need to get tested before sitting in a plane for 12 hours next to other people.

[JlmBoi]

It's definitely annoying but still makes sense to me that people who are not vaccinated need to get tested before sitting in a plane for 12 hours next to other people.

Usually it's a requirement from the airline or the destination country, not the origin country.

[tavster]

Usually it's a requirement from the airline or the destination country, not the origin country.

I understand

[LizR]

The Covid test requirement should follow. (Can someone explain to me why you need a Covid test to leave the country?!?)`

I just got back to NY this morning. Not sure why I was told that the pcr test needed to be in English because I only had to show it in Ben Gurion, not in jfk

[ExGingi]

I just got back to NY this morning. Not sure why I was told that the pcr test needed to be in English because I only had to show it in Ben Gurion, not in jfk

It all depends on destination country. The US delegates the document verification to the airlines. Other places might require it upon entry. When delegated to the airlines I guess it depends on the instructions given by the delegating authority.

[ExGingi]

Rant from Hul Mehudar:

הכי מחוסנים בעולם, הכי הרבה בדיקות ופרוצדורות בעולם
מאת: דודי רובינשטיין.

מדינת ישראל היא המדינה הכי מחוסנת בעולם, נקודה. ברוך השם.

אזרחי מדינת ישראל הינם "סחורה" חמה ומבוקשת בעולם, עובדה.
אך, אזרח שרוצה להנות מהיתרון הישראלי ולטוס, נתקל לצערנו בהכי הרבה מגבלות!
הן כספיות והן מנהלתיות, וחבל!
(ברשומה זו לא נתייחס למגבלות שהמדינה מטילה על משפחות עם ילדים שרוצים לטוס ביחד. כאב לב בפני עצמו. נזכיר שוב שאנחנו המדינה המחוסנת ביותר בעולם).

להלן התהליך המעודכן, קראו בעיון:

א.
ביצוע בדיקת קורונה לפני היציאה בהתאם לדרישת מדינת היעד.
*מנהלתי* - התעסקות ב 72 שעות לפני הטיסה עם תיאום בדיקת קורונה.
*כספי* - מ 45 ש''ח בנתבג לבדיקה ארוכה ועד כ 300 ש''ח במרפאה/בית חולים מורשה הסמוך לבית.
(ו..יש גזירה חדשה - לא קופת חולים חלילה..)

ב.
ביצוע בדיקה בחו"ל 72 שעות לפני החזרה לארץ.
*מנהלתי* - חיפוש בחו"ל מרפאה שעושה טסט pcr. תיאומים, הגעה, לקוות שהתוצאה תגיע בזמן למייל.
*כספי* - בין עשרות למעל מאה דולר לבדיקה לאדם בחו"ל , תלוי ביעד.

ג.
ביצוע בדיקה נוספת בנתב"ג בכניסה לארץ.
*מנהלתי* - די מתקתק, ללא פרוצדורה מתישה מעבר לעוד 10-15 ד' נוספים בטרמינל.
*כספי* - 80 ש''ח לבדיקה מוזמנת מראש. 100 ש''ח ללא הזמנה מראש.

ובכן שימו לב.
הרבה מדינות באירופה ובעולם מכירות בתעודת המתחסן שלנו ואילו כאן בישראל לא מכירים בתעודה הזו ושולחים אותנו לבדיקת קורונה בחו"ל! מלבד הבדיקה הנוספת בנתב"ג בהגעה.
אבסורד שזועק לשמים
 
בחו"ל מהודר מצטרפים לקריאתו של מר אורי סירקיס מנכ"ל ישראייר וקוראים לרשויות להקל על הנוסעים לחו״ל. לשמחות משפחתיות , לעסקים, לחופשות, וכד'.
לנצל את היתרון היחסי של ישראל בחיסונים ולאפשר שמים פתוחים ללא בירוקרטיה מיותרת, מתח, עוגמת נפש, חלילה.

פתח שערי שמים 🛫

[tavster]

Rant from Hul Mehudar:

Dudi doesn't like when we mess up with his travel 

[points 99]

On flight to TLV (United), they announced 3 times a reminder that masks need to fully cover mouth and nose, and if you see someone else not properly masked, please call flight attendants immediately. But they didn't enforce that. Plenty of people were breathing through their nose.
On the return, the crew was London-based and they announced at least 5 times that the law requires masks to cover CHIN, nose and mouth at all times, even during eating and drinking! They said that you must put it back on between bites and sips! Was that a made up rule, or perhaps a British law?
On the return they were strictly enforcing masks, and even woke up the person next to me because his nose wasn't fully covered!

[LizR]

On flight to TLV (United), they announced 3 times a reminder that masks need to fully cover mouth and nose, and if you see someone else not properly masked, please call flight attendants immediately. But they didn't enforce that. Plenty of people were breathing through their nose.
On the return, the crew was London-based and they announced at least 5 times that the law requires masks to cover CHIN, nose and mouth at all times, even during eating and drinking! They said that you must put it back on between bites and sips! Was that a made up rule, or perhaps a British law?
On the return they were strictly enforcing masks, and even woke up the person next to me because his nose wasn't fully covered!

Fly El Al.  Most relaxed policy ever.  They said at the beginning of the flight that you need to wear it.  They never mentioned it again.  Many people had theirs completely off, especially for the hours that the lights are off.

[ExGingi]

On flight to TLV (United), they announced 3 times a reminder that masks need to fully cover mouth and nose, and if you see someone else not properly masked, please call flight attendants immediately. But they didn't enforce that. Plenty of people were breathing through their nose.
On the return, the crew was London-based and they announced at least 5 times that the law requires masks to cover CHIN, nose and mouth at all times, even during eating and drinking! They said that you must put it back on between bites and sips! Was that a made up rule, or perhaps a British law?
On the return they were strictly enforcing masks, and even woke up the person next to me because his nose wasn't fully covered!

IINM that's a Biden administration rule. I've heard it announced on various flights (domestic and international). When flying lie-flat they don't bother you that much as you might not be that visible to them.

[tavster]

Fly El Al.  Most relaxed policy ever.  They said at the beginning of the flight that you need to wear it.  They never mentioned it again.  Many people had theirs completely off, especially for the hours that the lights are off.

When was that?
On my last flights a few weeks ago they were very strict