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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #420 on: September 25, 2020, 01:23:59 PM »
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יציאת אדם לטיסה משדה תעופה עד 8 שעות לפני מועד
המראת הטיסה ובלבד שהתקיים אחד מאלה:
(1) הטיסה היא למטרה שפורטה בתקנה זו;
(2) הנוסע רכש כרטיס טיסה עד יום ז' בתשרי התשפ"א (25 בספטמבר 2020) ויש לו אישור בכתב על רכישת כרטיס הטיסה במועד כאמור;
(ב) על אף האמור בפסקת משנה (א)(2), המנהל הכללי של משרד התחבורה רשאי לאשר לאדם לצאת ממקום המגורים לטיסה גם אם כרטיס הטיסה נרכש אחרי המועד כאמור באותה פסקה, אם נמצא לדעתו כי צורך הומניטרי או צורך אישי מיוחד מצדיק זאת; החלטה
לעניין אישור כאמור תהיה בכתב ומנומקת;
(ג) אין בהוראות פסקה זו כדי למנוע מאדם לצאת לטיסה שלא משדה תעופה למטרה שפורטה בתקנה זו;";

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #421 on: October 12, 2020, 11:51:24 AM »
Apparently deliberations are underway right now to finally consider antibody tests as proof of prior infection.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #422 on: October 12, 2020, 11:59:58 AM »
Apparently deliberations are underway right now to finally consider antibody tests as proof of prior infection.
I heard from a friend that didn't need to quarantine, with just the antibody test.

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #423 on: October 12, 2020, 12:29:36 PM »
I heard from a friend that didn't need to quarantine, with just the antibody test.

There have been such exceptions made (does he reside in EY and a member of Kupat Cholim? That makes a huge difference)? But due to publicity and some attempts using forged documentation, they have cracked down and weren't making any more exceptions. The need for exceptions might change very shortly.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #424 on: October 12, 2020, 12:31:59 PM »
There have been such exceptions made (does he reside in EY and a member of Kupat Cholim? That makes a huge difference)? But due to publicity and some attempts using forged documentation, they have cracked down and weren't making any more exceptions. The need for exceptions might change very shortly.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #425 on: October 12, 2020, 02:05:15 PM »
yes

That makes a world of a difference.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #426 on: October 13, 2020, 10:57:10 PM »
Finally antibody tests officially recognized.










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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #427 on: October 14, 2020, 12:34:38 AM »
Does that apply to non-resident as well?

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #428 on: October 14, 2020, 12:36:55 AM »
Does that apply to non-resident as well?

Based on the way I read #5 it applies to anyone who is allowed to enter the country and would otherwise be required to quarantine.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #429 on: October 14, 2020, 12:51:08 AM »
English version?
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #430 on: October 14, 2020, 12:52:13 AM »
English version?

Anyone paying me to translate?

ETA: for the purpose of this thread I think only #5 is relevant. I might find time tomorrow at the office to do it.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #431 on: October 14, 2020, 10:58:03 AM »
English version?
Cant do the whole thing, but since his main point is #5, here it is (loose translation):
Confirmation of recovery based on tests from Chu"l- Someone who arrives in Israel from outside it, and would be required to quarantine based on the regulations, who has in their possession a report of illness from a foreign country (a report of a positive test via pCR, or of antibodies or seological report of COVID19) which demonstrates illness 10 days or earlier prior to their arrival, will be tested at arrival with a srological test to confirm the test. To be clear, in every circumstance according to the regulations this person will be requires to be in quarantine until the are confirmed to have recovered as stated above. If the report this perons has from Chu"l confirms an illness within the previous 10 days, the person will be quarantined and be freed from it only after being confirmed as recovered as a definite infected person, without removing his requirement not to get on a flight while he is confirmed sick so long as he was not confirmed to have recovered.

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #432 on: October 14, 2020, 11:22:21 AM »
I'm not sure of the implications, but DW just called me that upon entry she handed her passport, boarding pass, and health declaration/authorization to board at passport control, and was let in without any further questioning or instructions. She specifically asked the border control agent "what about quarantine?" and was told "you came from a green state, no need". At some point (I think it was after DW asked about quarantine) the agent asked her when she had COVID-19, and when DW responded "right after Purim" the agent said, "oh, that's a long time ago, you're good to go".
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #433 on: October 14, 2020, 12:00:22 PM »
I'm not sure of the implications, but DW just called me that upon entry she handed her passport, boarding pass, and health declaration/authorization to board at passport control, and was let in without any further questioning or instructions. She specifically asked the border control agent "what about quarantine?" and was told "you came from a green state, no need". At some point (I think it was after DW asked about quarantine) the agent asked her when she had COVID-19, and when DW responded "right after Purim" the agent said, "oh, that's a long time ago, you're good to go".
I came from a green country yesterday, and was asked lots of questions about me having be to red country.. they also checked all the pages of my passport for stamps etc

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #434 on: October 14, 2020, 12:06:32 PM »
Cant do the whole thing, but since his main point is #5, here it is (loose translation):
Confirmation of recovery based on tests from Chu"l- Someone who arrives in Israel from outside it, and would be required to quarantine based on the regulations, who has in their possession a report of illness from a foreign country (a report of a positive test via pCR, or of antibodies or seological report of COVID19) which demonstrates illness 10 days or earlier prior to their arrival, will be tested at arrival with a srological test to confirm the test. To be clear, in every circumstance according to the regulations this person will be requires to be in quarantine until the are confirmed to have recovered as stated above. If the report this perons has from Chu"l confirms an illness within the previous 10 days, the person will be quarantined and be freed from it only after being confirmed as recovered as a definite infected person, without removing his requirement not to get on a flight while he is confirmed sick so long as he was not confirmed to have recovered.
So Israel will do antibody tests to confirm? Where will that be done?
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