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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #465 on: October 20, 2020, 09:03:18 AM »
I did not fill out any papers when arrived to NY and they still called me vs. israel that I filled out detailed papers and nobody called

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #466 on: October 20, 2020, 09:10:41 AM »
So officially, if you have an anti-body test, you can skip quarantine (even form a red country), but otherwise, they may or may not check on you during your quarantine. If you decide not to keep it... then don't bring your phone along as they can triangulate the location.

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #467 on: October 20, 2020, 09:37:55 AM »
2 points for Bachurim travelling
Instructions for Ishur not clear
Lines of people waiting to get on planes missing crucial documents, very frustrating
Besides the Ishur, you need to fill out and Entry Clearance and an Isolation Report
The instructions for the Ishur only mention the Isolation report....

In Israel the authorities are telling the Bachurim there is no testing for antibodies to shorten the Bidud and no such facilities in the airport... there clearly is... they said it's meant for them
a couple guys did try it and the clinic said they will call them in 4 days to tell them if they can shorten quarantine (dont wait by the phone?) also they may have had the positive and negative test


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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #468 on: October 20, 2020, 09:38:50 AM »
So officially, if you have an anti-body test, you can skip quarantine (even form a red country), but otherwise, they may or may not check on you during your quarantine. If you decide not to keep it... then don't bring your phone along as they can triangulate the location.

How are they going to triangulate a phone they have no information about (put GV phone number on the form)?
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #469 on: October 20, 2020, 10:07:42 AM »


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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #471 on: October 20, 2020, 11:16:04 AM »
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1911652/new-israel-changes-rules-for-those-arriving-antibodies-exemptions-suspended.html

As I wrote.
My source in EY just sent me a voicenote saying that the implementation of the procedure to allow exit from isolation based on antibody tests has been postponed by two weeks. I haven't yet seen anything written.

Seemingly the reasons are bureaucratic/financial with disagreement over who will get the contract for the testing, logistics, etc. So the process is valid, but there's no practical implementation (though Chaim V'Chesed write that Health Ministry told them that one can go out of quarantine to have the test done, as long as not in a hospital setting). DW, realizing that her being told she doesn't need to quarantine might have been inaccurate went to Hadassah Medical to have it done. Despite being told that an appointment is reqired, they see people on a first come first served basis even without an appointment, so she had a long wait. They said results within 24 hours.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #472 on: October 20, 2020, 11:45:25 AM »
And here it is in writing.


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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #473 on: October 21, 2020, 08:04:27 PM »
As I wrote.
Seemingly the reasons are bureaucratic/financial with disagreement over who will get the contract for the testing, logistics, etc. So the process is valid, but there's no practical implementation (though Chaim V'Chesed write that Health Ministry told them that one can go out of quarantine to have the test done, as long as not in a hospital setting). DW, realizing that her being told she doesn't need to quarantine might have been inaccurate went to Hadassah Medical to have it done. Despite being told that an appointment is reqired, they see people on a first come first served basis even without an appointment, so she had a long wait. They said results within 24 hours.
Covid tests here are only PCR and the system is run only by MADA. There is a low-cost, highly accurate, instant test invented in Israel but it's not being used in Israel - it's being tested in European airports. I often wonder why here there is only one option but for some strange reason my mind always wanders towards "politics".

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #474 on: October 21, 2020, 09:26:57 PM »
Covid tests here are only PCR and the system is run only by MADA. There is a low-cost, highly accurate, instant test invented in Israel but it's not being used in Israel - it's being tested in European airports. I often wonder why here there is only one option but for some strange reason my mind always wanders towards "politics".
I let out my frustration about this today to someone high up in a certain large Israeli municipality. I told him that if this is resolved, his city would benefit from a tourism influx from thousands who previously had Covid-19 but never got a positive PCR test.

He told me he is passing on my message to some contacts at the ministry of interior. He said if anything could be accomplished it would be there. He said the ministry of health is a total mess and chaos, it's impossible to get anything reasonable from them.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #475 on: October 21, 2020, 11:19:11 PM »
Here's another interesting DP.

I know of someone who traveled from Australia to EY this week. Given the scarcity of flights, and many restrictions on interline connections, it ended up being on two separate tickets, with the first being from Australia to IST, and a separate ticket from IST to TLV.

Current regulations say that if you came from a "green" country you don't need to quarantine. However, when obtaining the boarding permission onto the flight arriving in TLV, one puts that flight number. So the permission slip said the person was flying from Australia on a TK flight number. That person was not required to quarantine as there was no exiting of the terminal building (I don't know how they might be able to track that, other than relying on passenger statement.
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #476 on: October 23, 2020, 09:22:52 AM »
Any recent DP on people leaving Israel before the official 14 days are up? If you have a letter clearing you from quarantine do they still make you stay at least 14 days?

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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #477 on: October 23, 2020, 09:51:37 AM »
Any recent DP on people leaving Israel before the official 14 days are up? If you have a letter clearing you from quarantine do they still make you stay at least 14 days?

They definitely don't allow you to go on a flight, even if a few hours short of 14 days. As of this week they will also fine you.

When one has a פטור מבידוד letter there's no issue (did someone say immunity passport?)
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Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners
« Reply #479 on: October 25, 2020, 12:17:26 PM »
Any recent DP on people leaving Israel before the official 14 days are up? If you have a letter clearing you from quarantine do they still make you stay at least 14 days?

Not about exiting the country, but SIL who is the only one in DW's family to have had a positive PCR test from the spring, entered EY and was told to quarantine. Supposedly once she gets a negative PCR test in EY she can exit quarantine. Police came to check on her today.
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