Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread

[ExGingi]

How does someone continue to ask questions that were answered here a million times?

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[PlatinumGuy]

Macs can edit PDFs in the native PDF viewer program

[m65]

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[m65]

Great sages of this DDF thread,

Planning for next summer, smallest kid will be 2

What do you think the odds are that by next summer, either:
- vaccines will be available for kids under 5, which will allow no-quarantine entry into Israel
- Israel will waive the vaccine requirement for children traveling with their families

the great sages of ddf are way too sane to predict the next steps of the israeli gov't

[ExGingi]

Macs can edit PDFs in the native PDF viewer program

That falls into the category of

There are other PDF editors.

As a side note, I've seen it reported that the best Windows computer is actually a Mac. I am not sure if that is still true with the new M1 chips.

[shwarmabob]

Great sages of this DDF thread,

Planning for next summer, smallest kid will be 2

What do you think the odds are that by next summer, either:
- vaccines will be available for kids under 5, which will allow no-quarantine entry into Israel
- Israel will waive the vaccine requirement for children traveling with their families

I am not anti vax but why would you give this vaccine to a two year old child??

[mgarfin]

https://twitter.com/igudhatayasim/status/1451180962835009538?s=20

[aygart]

There are other PDF editors.

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Includes some editing options and ability to save to word etc. for free.

[AsherO]

https://twitter.com/igudhatayasim/status/1451180962835009538?s=20

What’s with this tourist capsule thingy? Do you join a tour and if one person’s antigen trips up and tests false positive, everyone on the tour has to quarantine?

[balderdash]

I am not anti vax but why would you give this vaccine to a two year old child??

Simply that I trust the scientific/trial process that these and all other vaccines in the US goes through

These trials have already been running for a long time with very young kids, and the reason why it takes longer is precisely because kids don't get sick or symptomatic as much, so it takes more time to get the statistical confidence that it works (plus some other safety-related processes around safe dosage that is more stringent than with adults)

Not saying there is 0% chance things go wrong, but it's a solid process. And yes I also give my kids all other required and recommended vaccines, including influenza which gets updated each year

I have no disrespect for people who won't give their kids the vaccine, given the low risk of severe side effects. I (& I suspect millions others) just have a different take. If they could ever come out with a common-cold vaccine that was proven safe and effective, I'd probably also give my kids that whereas other parents may say just let them get sick because it doesn't get so bad (not an unreasonable position either)

[shwarmabob]

Simply that I trust the scientific/trial process that these and all other vaccines in the US goes through

These trials have already been running for a long time with very young kids, and the reason why it takes longer is precisely because kids don't get sick or symptomatic as much, so it takes more time to get the statistical confidence that it works (plus some other safety-related processes around safe dosage that is more stringent than with adults)

I respectfully disagree but my kids are older so for me it's a more abstract question.
The Israeli entry requirements keep changing more frequently than other countries. I don't think anybody can predict what they will be in 8 months. Typically even their government doesn't last that long.

[bp27]

Does anyone know how this is currently working with the 24 hour quarantine upon arrival, or until the PCR results from the airport come back? Assuming that tourism does indeed reopen November 1, are you able to check into a hotel during this quarantine period? If not, how are they expecting tourists to come? Do you need to stay in an Airbnb?

How quickly does this PCR test comes back in real life?

Planning a trip and wondering if I should stay in a hotel (my preference) or keep it simple and use Airbnb (thanks to CSR using points to pay back for Airbnb). I would have where to hang out for a few hours before I need to check in to a hotel.

Anyone who can provide some info would be appreciated.

[shwarmabob]

How quickly does this PCR test comes back in real life?

PCR results come back in about 14 hours

[gubevo18]

If one gets an ishur but plans in going for only five days will they cause problems on the way out die to exiting quarantine early? I know that if you had the second Pfizer dose within last 6 months and you have positive antibodies and negative PCR you can "exit quarantine" when calling the misrad habriut hotline. Does that work for those that had moderna but second dose more than 6 months ago?

[Ergel]

Have the new rules been posted officially? Any exception for under 2?

[Danlover111]

Have the new rules been posted officially? Any exception for under 2?

Will triple vaxed in USA be able to travel to Israel for a weekend, in regards of getting out of bidud to be able to fly?

[ExGingi]

Will triple vaxed in USA be able to travel to Israel for a weekend, in regards of getting out of bidud to be able to fly?

Have you been following Israeli politics recently?

Would you believe anything you are told (promises, commitments, policies, etc.) by Israeli officials?

[m65]

Have you been following Israeli politics recently over the past 73 years?

Would you believe anything you are told (promises, commitments, policies, etc.) by Israeli officials?

ftfy

[yungermanchik]

ftfy

https://quote.org/quote/yes-i-promised-but-did-i-promise-601085

[ExGingi]

ftfy

https://quote.org/quote/yes-i-promised-but-did-i-promise-601085

I think it could be argued that the most recent iteration outdoes all of Israeli historic politicians combined, including the quote from Levi Eshkol.

They don't even try to conceal how low they are nowadays. Total lies on a regular basis, reneging on pledges, flip-flopping on policies, striking down a law written by an opposition MK only to be plagiarized word for word by a coalition MK and approved. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP. (and the constant incoherent and flip-flop COVID-19 policies are just the cherry on top).