Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread

[ExGingi]

And also submitted a third application. less than two hours after the second - 2503 applications in between

Dudi Rubinstein of Hul Mehudar just posted about flight to Kiev. He noted that having children fly along with parents isn't an acceptable humanitarian reason. (If that is the only reason one can come up with, I would frame it differently - parents are allowed to and must fly, there is no-one to supervise children).

[Ergel]

Dudi Rubinstein of Hul Mehudar just posted about flight to Kiev. He noted that having children fly along with parents isn't an acceptable humanitarian reason. (If that is the only reason one can come up with, I would frame it differently - parents are allowed to and must fly, there is no-one to supervise children).

I tried that in the second application (even went the oleh angle) - no dice

[Ergel]

+100
For what it's worth I have two friends who submitted requests for their kids using reasons definitely not humanitarians, and we're both approved within hours of submitting the requests

This is the most frustrating part

[yelped]

I really don't understand why the Israeli government is still making it so difficult to leave and return. What health reason do they have to keep people home that overrides all other concerns? Why don't they just allow anyone who is verifiably vaccinated to return and leave as they please?

[bigdipper8545]

which direction?

To nyc

[ExGingi]

This is the most frustrating part

Maybe try submitting at different times of the day. I would assume there would be other people looking at it, and you might get lucky.

Will you need permission for them to come back?

[ExGingi]

I really don't understand why the Israeli government is still making it so difficult to leave and return. What health reason do they have to keep people home that overrides all other concerns? Why don't they just allow anyone who is verifiably vaccinated to return and leave as they please?

It's 100% (or more) political.

[Ergel]

Maybe try submitting at different times of the day. I would assume there would be other people looking at it, and you might get lucky.

Will you need permission for them to come back?

That's the plan, vote early, vote often
No (as of now)

[yelped]

It's 100% (or more) political.

That's not an excuse, that's a Tiyuvta.

[Ergel]

I really don't understand why the Israeli government is still making it so difficult to leave and return. What health reason do they have to keep people home that overrides all other concerns? Why don't they just allow anyone who is verifiably vaccinated to return and leave as they please?

They do allow any Israeli citizen who is verifiably vaccinated or recovered to go and come as they please

[yelped]

They do allow any Israeli citizen who is verifiably vaccinated or recovered to go and come as they please

Not if they limit the flights allowed to fly. That's effectively not allowing Israelis to come and go as they please.

[ExGingi]

They do allow any Israeli citizen who is verifiably vaccinated or recovered to go and come as they please

Ahem. Where's @aygart to point out the huge incentive to get kids infected. Since they don't give vaccines under age 16, and kids might be restricted from traveling if they didn't recover from COVID-19, send them to infection parties to make sure they get infected.

[ExGingi]

That's not an excuse, that's a Tiyuvta.

With all the RIP/BDE due to COVID-19, I haven't seen Common Sense being mentioned. That seems to have been a major casualty of COVID-19.

[Ergel]

Not if they limit the flights allowed to fly. That's effectively not allowing Israelis to come and go as they please.

Fair enough

[tavster]

That's the plan, vote early, vote often
No (as of now)

What are the chances that they have a history of the requests? i.e. under this TZ # this is the list of requests we've received.. and for Ergel we've received 5 under the last 24h with 5 different reasons?

Just thinking out loud 

[Ergel]

What are the chances that they have a history of the requests? i.e. under this TZ # this is the list of requests we've received.. and for Ergel we've received 5 under the last 24h with 5 different reasons?

Just thinking out loud 

How can it hurt me?
They can't do anything more than say no which is where I already am

[Dan]

Same way notes in a PNR can hurt you. Makes HUCA more unlikely to work.

[Ergel]

Same way notes in a PNR can hurt you. Makes HUCA more unlikely to work.

Of course, but what alternative do I have?

[yfr bachur]

Given that foreign vaccinations aren't going to get a green passport yet, how do those of us that exit quarantine with a foreign vaccine (and serology test) get into locations that require a green passport?  Meaning, getting into a hotel, mall, gym, etc?

Local serological test. Either through your Kupah or privately.
If the test is positive, you can get a Dr to enter you as Machlim.
The English speaking doctor in Bais Yisroel is taking 50 shekel for the secretarial work.

It isn't (just) an airline, it's Israel. 
הכי בבית בעולם

The hebrew one would be true if your house was run by your toddler having a tantrum

[Dan]

Of course, but what alternative do I have?

IgG tested the kids already?