Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread

[Kobe Bryant]

Israel’s coronavirus cabinet approved the Prime Minister and Health Minister’s recommendation to shorten the mandatory quarantine time to 7 days.

[ExGingi]

IIRC I suggested this many months ago somewhere on DDF. Paging @TimT

[TimT]

IIRC I suggested this many months ago somewhere on DDF. Paging @TimT

Thanks!  This is great! I think this answers @ExGingi 's concern, which was decreasing the time to exit isolation after exposure to an infected person. 

Though it doesn't answer the specific study he wanted, which was "Let's take a group of people with a known exposure to a positive case, isolate them for two weeks to prevent a second exposure, and conduct repeated PCR tests during this time to determine how long it takes for the first positive test to appear." 

I haven't found any study to answer that particular question, but probably for good reason - it would be a waste of time and tests in pursuit of a point of information that is not really practically useful now.  More important is to monitor time since infection and possible symptoms, rather than testing for the virus.   

Thanks for posting @S209. I would argue that הא בהא תליא. Evidence of a sensible policy to shorten quarantine would get more people to willingly comply.

As to @biobook's assertion that such a study is a waste of time, that is beyond me. I would argue that it would be an extremely useful study, as it would enable improved accuracy of quarantine requirements, showing goodwill of kinds to people who are experiencing draconian measures, enabling more of a back-to-normal life, without any increased risk to public health. On the contrary, people are more likely to comply if they have a reasonable route to a quicker way out of it.

[TBD]

IIRC I suggested this many months ago somewhere on DDF. Paging @TimT

Needs to be that BIBI didn't follow DDF vs Bannet does follows DDF

[yelped]

Needs to be that BIBI didn't follow DDF vs Bannet does follows DDF

And the Mayor of Surfside definitely reads DDF.

[Kobe Bryant]

As of Friday, July 16.

• Take a COVID test before leaving for and upon arrival in Israel. (2 PCR tests)

• Don’t travel to dangerous countries, meaning those with high infection rates (listed below). If so, receive a NIS 5,000 fine and must quarantine 7 days.

• Anyone who returns from a country listed as risky must quarantine for 7 days. (listed below)

• Anyone, coming from anywhere, whether vaccinated or not, must quarantine for 24 hours or until they receive a negative COVID test result – whichever comes first.

• Israeli Children under 12 who are unvaccinated are required to quarantine for seven days.

• Anyone who is not vaccinated or recovered IN ISRAEL is required to quarantine for seven days.

Corona Dangerous Banned countries are: Uzbekistan, Belarus, Brazil, South Africa, India, Mexico and Russia.

Corona High-risk countries that require quarantine on arrival from there are: United Arab Emirates, Seychelles, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Bolivia, Guatemala, Honduras, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Namibia, Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Kyrgyzstan and Tunisia

[Chaikel]

As of Friday, July 16.

• Take a COVID test before leaving for and upon arrival in Israel. (2 PCR tests)

• Don’t travel to dangerous countries, meaning those with high infection rates (listed below). If so, receive a NIS 5,000 fine and must quarantine 7 days.

• Anyone who returns from a country listed as risky must quarantine for 7 days. (listed below)

• Anyone, coming from anywhere, whether vaccinated or not, must quarantine for 24 hours or until they receive a negative COVID test result – whichever comes first.

• Israeli Children under 12 who are unvaccinated are required to quarantine for seven days.

• Anyone who is not vaccinated or recovered IN ISRAEL is required to quarantine for seven days.

Corona Dangerous Banned countries are: Uzbekistan, Belarus, Brazil, South Africa, India, Mexico and Russia.

Corona High-risk countries that require quarantine on arrival from there are: United Arab Emirates, Seychelles, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Bolivia, Guatemala, Honduras, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Namibia, Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Kyrgyzstan and Tunisia

No more serological tests for those vaccinated abroad?

[LongTimeLurker]

No more serological tests for those vaccinated abroad?

As far as I can tell serological tests for vaccinated abroad still ok
https://corona.health.gov.il/directives/air-travel-covid19-green/

[yitzyul]

applied last week for my self and for another friend.
My friend received his approval a few hours later (both under 1st degree relative).
Mine they just sent me this email, so basically I have to do resubmit everything again....
Hello,

"The State of Israel has changed the manner in which applications for entry into Israel are submitted.

In order to submit an application, one must fill out an online form and attach all the documents required for the application.

PLEASE NOTE!

1. In the case of more than one passenger - each passenger is required to fill out an online form separately.

2. You must attach all the required documents to the application. For the full list of documents, please visit the consulate's website (click here)

3. Applications submitted without all the required documents will be rejected and will need to be submitted again

4. Requests must be sent about 4 weeks before the flight date

5. Applications will be processed within 20 business days from the date of submission of the online form

Due to the change, requests received so far via email are returned to applicants and will not be processed.

If your request is relevant, please click here to fill out the online form."

[Ergel]

What is the online form?

[Moes Tavern]

applied last week for my self and for another friend.
My friend received his approval a few hours later (both under 1st degree relative).
Mine they just sent me this email, so basically I have to do resubmit everything again....
Hello,

"The State of Israel has changed the manner in which applications for entry into Israel are submitted.

In order to submit an application, one must fill out an online form and attach all the documents required for the application.

PLEASE NOTE!

1. In the case of more than one passenger - each passenger is required to fill out an online form separately.

2. You must attach all the required documents to the application. For the full list of documents, please visit the consulate's website (click here)

3. Applications submitted without all the required documents will be rejected and will need to be submitted again

4. Requests must be sent about 4 weeks before the flight date

5. Applications will be processed within 20 business days from the date of submission of the online form

Due to the change, requests received so far via email are returned to applicants and will not be processed.

If your request is relevant, please click here to fill out the online form."

Just got the same.

[Moes Tavern]

What is the online form?

https://govforms.gov.il/mw/forms/knisalisrael%40mofa.gov.il#!requestDetails

[chayie]

does the original "request for admission of foreign national to the State of Israel" 3-page form need to uploaded as part of the documents? Does anyone know? (It's the form where you write what address you will be staying at, and who your host is - https://amudim.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Decleration-may-6.pdf)

[Ergel]

https://govforms.gov.il/mw/forms/knisalisrael%40mofa.gov.il#!requestDetails

FIL applied via email a month ago with no response.
Got approval within 20 minutes of filling out the form

[Dan]

FIL applied via email a month ago with no response.
Got approval within 20 minutes of filling out the form

Wow!
Any more DPs?

[meir123]

Applied for 6 1 got approved right away

[yitzyul]

FIL applied via email a month ago with no response.
Got approval within 20 minutes of filling out the form

Which embassy did you choose?
I submitted via email sun for myself and a friend via Miami Counsel. Friend they approved Monday early morning, mine they sent back stating I should apply in NY    (even though both live in NY). I reapplied in NY, today received the automated email that I need to apply online. I applied online minutes later and as of now nothing!

[TBD]

FIL applied via email a month ago with no response.
Got approval within 20 minutes of filling out the form

Approval is for 14 days or for a month?

[yitzyul]

Approval is for 14 days or for a month?

Friend was for 30 days

[zow]

Does anyone know how traveling to Mexico may or may not adversely affect getting an entry permit to visit 1st degree relative?
Daughter returned from CUN 6/27 and is scheduled to fly to TLV 8/4. 
Scientifically, it shouldn’t be an issue.
Anyone know the policy?