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Link to form that needs to be filled out within 48 hours of flight to Israel

Accordingly, the FINAL criteria For entering Israel are as follows - you must meet ONE of these conditions in order to enter Israel:

1. Vaccinated within 180 days of the trip with either a second vaccine or a booster and it must be at least 14 days after the shot.

2. Recovered within 180 days of the trip with DIGITAL proof of a positive PCR result and more than 11 days have passed since the positive result. This type of proof only exists in the EU. The UK will likely have it as well.

3. Recovered anytime – even more than 180 days before the trip - with DIGITAL proof of positive PCR result AND vaccinated with at least one dose within 180 days of the trip. Again at the moment the digital proof only exists in the EU and possibly the UK shortly.

Your vaccination or recovery CANNOT expire while in Israel, which means you may not be in Israel more than 180 days after your vaccine or recovery have expired.

CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATING THE TERMS OF ENTRY: VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE ABOVE CRITERIA CAN MEAN SANCTIONS INCLUDING BARRING YOUR ENTRY TO ISRAEL FOR 5 YEARS.

Link to pay for the Covid test that you'll take upon arrival in TLV

Author Topic: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread  (Read 664470 times)

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4660 on: September 10, 2021, 07:17:47 AM »
He/she just wants to know if they can score a refund. Why is this a moral discussion?

Why get a refund? Delta transported them to and from Israel, and likely has something in their terms that makes international travel/entry subject to authorities at the destination. The airlines have an expectation (likely a requirement) from the countries they fly to to check certain things (even pre-COVID, e.g. passport, visa, etc), and the expectation to fly the passenger back to the origin in case entry is denied.

The reason it becomes a moral discussion is because the questioner is claiming they were wronged by the airline and are thus entitled to a refund, and the response is that they themselves are “in the wrong “ here, or at very least mistaken in their understanding of things both before their flight and now.
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4661 on: September 10, 2021, 08:49:40 AM »

the questioner is claiming they were wronged by the airline and are thus entitled to a refund
I didnt read it like that, I read it as a reasoning they would try to use to get a refund. Obviously what they did was at their own risk. I guess not so obvious.
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4662 on: September 12, 2021, 02:59:17 AM »
Ok realized I was doing this wrong.

Spain trip was both visit to Spain and springboard to Israel.

In filling out the Spain entry thing it asked if im passing through.

So I'll just fly to Israel and hold off on Spain for now.

I have a darkon, I have a positive PCR test from 3/10/21. I never tested antibody level and was planing to but didn't vaccinate.

What's the deal? Do I have to test negative or quarantine?

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4663 on: September 12, 2021, 08:49:42 AM »

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4664 on: September 12, 2021, 10:56:20 AM »
Crazy how many people got covid in Uman.

https://twitter.com/yuvharpaz/status/1436958520465891332?s=19

Crazy that they all flew back to Israel positive...
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4665 on: September 12, 2021, 11:16:35 AM »
BREAKING:

While I only got my response from MoH after being back in the states, due to a delay in them responding to my application to exit bidud from 10 days ago, I just received several emails from MoH.

One with a green pass, another with an ishur machlim based on the serological test I did in the airport, and a third email saying I'm out of bidud (now moot) based on it.
The effective date is 9/2, the date I took the serological test.

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4666 on: September 12, 2021, 11:19:40 AM »
BREAKING:

While I only got my response from MoH after being back in the states, due to a delay in them responding to my application to exit bidud from 10 days ago, I just received several emails from MoH.

One with a green pass, another with an ishur machlim based on the serological test I did in the airport, and a third email saying I'm out of bidud (now moot) based on it.
The effective date is 9/2, the date I took the serological test.

What's the expiration date shown on the green pass?
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4667 on: September 12, 2021, 11:24:12 AM »
What document are they looking for תיעוד על המחלה מחו"ל? Positive PCR? Or negative PCR from before flight?

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4668 on: September 12, 2021, 11:24:28 AM »
What's the expiration date shown on the green pass?

End of 2021

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4669 on: September 12, 2021, 11:25:27 AM »
What document are they looking for תיעוד על המחלה מחו"ל? Positive PCR? Or negative PCR from before flight?



Not the negative

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4671 on: September 12, 2021, 11:28:05 AM »
Boo
This might get automatically updated on October 1st, once the MoH moves to the dynamic expiration dates.
As of now all green pass show December 31st as expiration IINM

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4672 on: September 12, 2021, 11:31:45 AM »
BREAKING: I have now confirmed that at least 4 people got a similar response in the past day.
That would give credence that it might be the official new policy.

BREAKING:

While I only got my response from MoH after being back in the states, due to a delay in them responding to my application to exit bidud from 10 days ago, I just received several emails from MoH.

One with a green pass, another with an ishur machlim based on the serological test I did in the airport, and a third email saying I'm out of bidud (now moot) based on it.
The effective date is 9/2, the date I took the serological test.

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4673 on: September 12, 2021, 11:52:12 AM »
Crazy that they all flew back to Israel positive...
I wouldn't presume that
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4674 on: September 12, 2021, 11:55:38 AM »
Key questions now are whether it's indeed official policy, and whether people will therefore get quick responses canceling quarantine.

I have a wedding coming up in a few weeks and this is extremely relevant.

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4675 on: September 12, 2021, 11:57:32 AM »
Key questions now are whether it's indeed official policy, and whether people will therefore get quick responses canceling quarantine.

I have a wedding coming up in a few weeks and this is extremely relevant.
I just submitted a request to leave bidud now. Will update once I get a response
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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4676 on: September 12, 2021, 12:00:26 PM »
I just submitted a request to leave bidud now. Will update once I get a response

When and where did you do the serological test?

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4677 on: September 12, 2021, 12:01:55 PM »
I just submitted a request to leave bidud now. Will update once I get a response
just make sure to keep youre smartphone with u wherever u go, so that u should know as soon as u leave bidud ;)

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4678 on: September 12, 2021, 12:26:19 PM »
BREAKING: I have now confirmed that at least 4 people got a similar response in the past day.
That would give credence that it might be the official new policy.

We're all these people (coincidentally). On day 7 after arriving?

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Re: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread
« Reply #4679 on: September 12, 2021, 12:49:12 PM »
We're all these people (coincidentally). On day 7 after arriving?

No