Is it time to reopen the country?

[avromie7]

You keep asking the same questions which I answered above. You just don't like the answers.
You're certainly entitled to that opinion, which is shared by zero experts in the field, even in red states.

I'm not talking specifically about NJ/NY as I have not been following that closely. But to argue that we should go from 0 to 100 demonstrates a lack of respect for a deadly pandemic that we don't yet understand. By moving slowly we can course correct with fewer consequences if needed.

I'm not saying 0 to 100, I'm saying we'll be at 50 in a month from now and we'll be staying there for a while, what are we gaining by taking it slow? If we were still on the down side of the first wave I would understand that we need to be extremely cautious to make sure we continue going down, but at this point we're already at the bottom. This is more relevant to NY/NJ that are past the first wave.

[S209]

Appeal to authority I'm not saying no restrictions, I'm saying how does having restrictions today that will be lifted in 2 weeks from now solve the issue? What do we gain by keeping said restrictions in place for another 2 weeks?

They seem to be of the belief that after 2 weeks of data we will start to see certain indicators that would warn us if we are moving too fast or doing something foolhardy. I agree that 2 weeks is probably too little for each phase, and they are also not being smart about what is or isn’t being allowed and when.

[avromie7]

They seem to be of the belief that after 2 weeks of data we will start to see certain indicators that would warn us if we are moving too fast or doing something foolhardy. I agree that 2 weeks is probably too little for each phase, and they are also not being smart about what is or isn’t being allowed and when.

But when it doesn't start changing after 2 weeks, they say in no it really takes 5-6 weeks.

[VacationLover]

All of my grandparents quarantined from before Purim. They are all locked in.

They all checked for anti-bodies and ALL of them have high levels of it. Which means they had the virus without symptoms and successfully fought it.

Also, one of them has a serious history with multiple heart surgeries and more. When he told his doctor that he has so much antibodies, his doctor refused to believe and told him to test again by a different lab. And yes, after testing again he got the same results.

[Dan]

All of my grandparents quarantined from before Purim. They are all locked in.

They all checked for anti-bodies and ALL of them have high levels of it. Which means they had the virus without symptoms and successfully fought it.

Also, one of them has a serious history with multiple heart surgeries and more. When he told his doctor that he has so much antibodies, his doctor refused to believe and told him to test again by a different lab. And yes, the same results.

That's great. Point being?

[VacationLover]

That's great. Point being?

another tidbit to answer the title of this thread. Not responding to anything particularly

[S209]

another tidbit to answer the title of this thread. Not responding to anything particularly

How does that help us decide when to reopen? Though you should take my poll

[Dan]

another tidbit to answer the title of this thread. Not responding to anything particularly

Don't see what that has to do with this thread, but good DP for an antibody thread.

[Yard sale]

So far so good with Georgia. Despite the data snafu which erroneously appeared to show numbers declining, preliminary data is still basically showing a plateau and is certainly not showing any huge spike 3 weeks since the April 24th reopening. It’s really still too early to call it either way due to the incubation period and lag in testing and reporting but it’s getting closer to coming into range....

[Kobe Bryant]

They’re hoping to prevent it from happening. I think this is the disconnect- you are firmly convinced that there will be a second wave, as large as the first, and it’s all about healthcare capacity. Most people are of the belief that by being smart and cautious we can preempt a second wave from occurring. A small bump, sure, but not a drastic wave like the one that has swept over us. Testing, restrictions, and data should be guiding the decision making.

You have my agreement on Murphy and Cuomo doing a poor job of leading the reopening. But I don’t think reopening everything to capacity at once makes sense. Only Sweden seems to disagree, but even they do have plenty of restrictions in place, pretty high immunity, and vulnerable people mostly locked down.

Willl the real @S209 please stand up 

[S209]

Willl the real @S209 please stand up 

? What’s different?

[Iz]

What is the current data re recent deaths in NY/NJ?

[Afrages6]

What is the current data re recent deaths in NY/NJ?

NY had 105 deaths reported yesterday and 106 deaths the day before that. New Jersey had 162 deaths reported yesterday

[Iz]

NY had 105 deaths reported yesterday and 106 deaths the day before that. New Jersey had 162 deaths reported yesterday

Thanks. Source? I want to see the trajectory.
Also, I wonder if we can see it by county/area.

[Afrages6]

Thanks. Source? I want to see the trajectory.
Also, I wonder if we can see it by county/area.

NY - Cuomo press conference
NJ - Murphy Twitter

I don’t believe that deaths are posted anywhere by region.

[Iz]

NY - Cuomo press conference
NJ - Murphy Twitter

I don’t believe that deaths are posted anywhere by region.

Thanks.

[etech0]

NY - Cuomo press conference
NJ - Murphy Twitter

I don’t believe that deaths are posted anywhere by region.

NY posts death by region here: https://forward.ny.gov/regional-monitoring-dashboard

It's not daily, it's a 3 day rolling average (meaning the average of the past 3 days) but still useful

[avromie7]

NY posts death by region here: https://forward.ny.gov/regional-monitoring-dashboard

It's not daily, it's a 3 day rolling average (meaning the average of the past 3 days) but still useful

It's much better this way, it helps even out the swings especially delays in reporting.

[flyingace]

So far so good with Georgia. Despite the data snafu which erroneously appeared to show numbers declining, preliminary data is still basically showing a plateau and is certainly not showing any huge spike 3 weeks since the April 24th reopening. It’s really still too early to call it either way due to the incubation period and lag in testing and reporting but it’s getting closer to coming into range....

What about the reports that the urban centers were not really open? Is that still true in Georgia and Florida?

[Lurker]

What about the reports that the urban centers were not really open? Is that still true in Georgia and Florida?

FL is slowly opening the tri-county area this week.