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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #280 on: May 21, 2020, 12:43:38 AM »
You guys want to have some fun? Look up the numbers from Florida nursing homes. As of April 18, there were 303 facilities with known infections. Given what we know about spread and survival rates among nursing home patients, how does the entire FL have a total of 2000 deaths, including the nursing homes?
Nobody know definitively that old people with corona die, its an assumption based on what's been happening. Doesn't necessarily mean that old people in nursing homes with corona will die

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #281 on: May 21, 2020, 12:48:44 AM »
You guys want to have some fun? Look up the numbers from Florida nursing homes. As of April 18, there were 303 facilities with known infections. Given what we know about spread and survival rates among nursing home patients, how does the entire FL have a total of 2000 deaths, including the nursing homes?
Maybe hydroxychloroquine, https://www.cbs8.com/mobile/video/news/health/coronavirus/39-texas-city-nursing-home-residents-successfully-complete-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-for-covid-19/285-8b3079d2-16b7-4b50-81b2-7a91650c0c55

I still find those numbers suspicious.

On the same note, I find NY's #'s just as suspicious if not more.
Listen to what he says. It most certainly sounds like she was.
How can someone discredit an entire organization based on a fired employees changing statements.

Knowing government, where I live, its would be extremely hard to have outright manuplation  of data. Maybe a guidance of what to count but that's about it. A quick overview should be enough.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #282 on: May 21, 2020, 01:26:52 AM »
https://twitter.com/jim_desmond/status/1263316639296061440

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #284 on: May 21, 2020, 01:33:48 AM »
You guys want to have some fun? Look up the numbers from Florida nursing homes. As of April 18, there were 303 facilities with known infections. Given what we know about spread and survival rates among nursing home patients, how does the entire FL have a total of 2000 deaths, including the nursing homes?

Once again you and your friends LOVE to call anything positive, fake news.

China=Liars
Florida=Liars

Whats your excuse for Israel and South Korea? Australia and New Zealand?

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #285 on: May 21, 2020, 01:37:32 AM »
Once again you and your friends LOVE to call anything positive, fake news.

China=Liars
Florida=Liars

Whats your excuse for Israel and South Korea? Australia and New Zealand?

ALOL!! Me and my friends... Yep, China is full of good news. Everyone agrees, except me and my friends, looking to make good news fake again.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #286 on: May 21, 2020, 01:50:48 AM »
ALOL!! Me and my friends... Yep, China is full of good news. Everyone agrees, except me and my friends, looking to make good news fake again.

How many countries need to be back to normal before you will stop with your panic? 10? 20? 30? Is there even a number or will you just preach negativity forever?

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #287 on: May 21, 2020, 02:21:03 AM »


or will you just preach negativity forever?
Ditto.

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #288 on: May 21, 2020, 07:20:11 AM »
Whats your excuse for Israel and South Korea? Australia and New Zealand?

When we do what those countries did in terms of closing the borders, quarantine enforcement, contact tracing, nationwide individual compliance, and use of military and tech to enforce the rules, we can compare ourselves to them. Til then, what's your point? They did it better? Sure.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #289 on: May 21, 2020, 08:04:12 AM »
Once again you and your friends LOVE to call anything positive, fake news.

China=Liars
Florida=Liars

Whats your excuse for Israel and South Korea? Australia and New Zealand?
Or they call anything Republican fake news and tell us wait 2 weeks,

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #290 on: May 21, 2020, 08:26:16 AM »
Nobody know definitively that old people with corona die, its an assumption based on what's been happening. Doesn't necessarily mean that old people in nursing homes with corona will die
Right. We only saw so much of it but we don't know that it is actually happening. Maybe in seven years the Novominsker will still be speaking at the siyum hashas.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #291 on: May 21, 2020, 08:27:22 AM »
Once again you and your friends LOVE to call anything positive, fake news.

China=Liars
Florida=Liars

Whats your excuse for Israel and South Korea? Australia and New Zealand?
Rivaled only by those who take every tidbit from a half baked conspiracy site and make it as if we are saved based on zero real data.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #292 on: May 21, 2020, 08:30:33 AM »
Or they call anything Republican fake news and tell us wait 2 weeks,

You understand that the Republicans called China liars, right? As did Democrats, and virtually every other country on earth. This isn't a DDF chiddush.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #294 on: May 21, 2020, 10:16:42 AM »
You guys want to have some fun? Look up the numbers from Florida nursing homes. As of April 18, there were 303 facilities with known infections. Given what we know about spread and survival rates among nursing home patients, how does the entire FL have a total of 2000 deaths, including the nursing homes?

Because they did the right thing and immediately removed infected people from the facility and didn't allow the hospitals to send them back until they were cleared.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/coronavirus-crisis-ron-desantis-florida-covid-19-strategy/

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“The day that the media had their first big freakout about Florida was March 15th,” DeSantis recalls, “which was, there were people on Clearwater Beach, and it was this big deal. That same day is when we signed the executive order to, one, ban visitation in the nursing homes, and two, ban the reintroduction of a COVID-positive patient back into a nursing home.”

Basically Florida shows how many nursing home deaths Cuomo is responsible for.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #295 on: May 21, 2020, 10:22:16 AM »
How many countries need to be back to normal before you will stop with your panic? 10? 20? 30? Is there even a number or will you just preach negativity forever?

Wondering when some of those who on the one hand claim there was never a lockdown in this country, and OTH say we can never go back to normal. What will it take?
What are the parameters?
We just want to know the rules of the game, it seems to me they keep on changing.

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #296 on: May 21, 2020, 10:24:46 AM »
You guys want to have some fun? Look up the numbers from Florida nursing homes. As of April 18, there were 303 facilities with known infections. Given what we know about spread and survival rates among nursing home patients, how does the entire FL have a total of 2000 deaths, including the nursing homes?

Given what we know about Florida's numbers, how is it possible that so many other states had much worse results with their nursing homes?

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #297 on: May 21, 2020, 10:28:16 AM »
Nobody know definitively that old people with corona die, its an assumption based on what's been happening. Doesn't necessarily mean that old people in nursing homes with corona will die

Are you serious? Its obvious that the most vulnerable population and an extremely high percentage (if not majority) of Covid19 deaths are from nursing homes.

Because they did the right thing and immediately removed infected people from the facility and didn't allow the hospitals to send them back until they were cleared.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/coronavirus-crisis-ron-desantis-florida-covid-19-strategy/

Basically Florida shows how many nursing home deaths Cuomo is responsible for.

This.

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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #298 on: May 21, 2020, 10:31:05 AM »
Wondering when some of those who on the one hand claim there was never a lockdown in this country, and OTH say we can never go back to normal. What will it take?
What are the parameters?
We just want to know the rules of the game, it seems to me they keep on changing.

A) Don't play around with "those who." Just call me out straight up. I stand behind what I write here.
B) Why are those your only 2 options? Lockdown vs Normal? Neither one of those are options, by anyone's guidelines.
C) There are no rules to this "game." Everyone's making it up as we're going along. This isn't Jumanji.
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Re: Is it time to reopen the country?
« Reply #299 on: May 21, 2020, 10:32:56 AM »
Given what we know about Florida's numbers, how is it possible that so many other states had much worse results with their nursing homes?

What do we know about Florida's numbers? How many tourists or snowbirds were infected or died? How many dual citizens from Europe or South America? How many illegal aliens?
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