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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »
The Count is biased due to:

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$25 billion for the U.S. Postal Service

When the count sees money for the USPS, he can't think of any arguments against it.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2020, 05:33:25 PM »
My dad had to promise his workers that they won't lose out from being rehired in order to fulfill PPP. Will come out of the business' pocket

Lose out as in raise wages to compete with UI? Or that he won't fire them after? Because technically they can all go back on UI after those 8 weeks are over.

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2020, 05:34:26 PM »
I think this bill is ridiculous for other reasons. We've seen how detrimental the additional $600 FPUC payments have been. Extending this til Jan '21 will not allow even for a V shaped recovery...

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2020, 05:39:05 PM »
The Count is biased due to:

When the count sees money for the USPS, he can't think of any arguments against it.
What is the purpose of the USPS?
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2020, 05:47:11 PM »
What is the purpose of the USPS?

Why don't you tell us? MS?
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2020, 05:47:58 PM »
Lose out as in raise wages to compete with UI? Or that he won't fire them after? Because technically they can all go back on UI after those 8 weeks are over.
If they are offered a job and decline, can't they lose their UI?
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2020, 05:48:07 PM »
Why don't you tell us? MS?
You made the snide remark so back it up.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2020, 05:49:45 PM »
If they are offered a job and decline, can't they lose their UI?
Yes in most states they will not be eligible for UI. Saying workers would rather stay home than going back to work is calling them lazy.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2020, 05:53:38 PM »
If they are offered a job and decline, can't they lose their UI?

Yes, but an employer has no obligation to keep employees on and offer them a job after the 8 weeks is up.

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2020, 06:01:18 PM »
Yes in most states they will not be eligible for UI. Saying workers would rather stay home than going back to work is calling them lazy.
Would you work for free, or pay to work?

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2020, 06:04:57 PM »
Would you work for free, or pay to work?
Have no idea what you are asking?
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2020, 06:06:31 PM »
Would you work for free, or pay to work?
Employees of many businesses are facing a pay cut for returning to work, as UI with the extra $600 is more than many people make at work. Are you saying someone is lazy if they don’t work for free, or even take a pay cut to do so? They’re essentially paying to do work.

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2020, 06:14:32 PM »
Employees of many businesses are facing a pay cut for returning to work, as UI with the extra $600 is more than many people make at work. Are you saying someone is lazy if they don’t work for free, or even take a pay cut to do so? They’re essentially paying to do work.
Now I see what the problem is.

Anyone who looks at this as working for free or taking a pay cut is the problem. You are out of work because of this virus. Hopefully you were made whole or close to whole. The D's took it further and some were made more than whole. Now if they call you back to your job and you refuse because you feel you are working for free or paying them to work you are not lazy. You are a lazy SCUMBAG!!!
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2020, 06:28:17 PM »
Need a source for this because in my family then can't wait to get back to work.
Many of my clients are having this issue.  And one by one we are fighting the unemployment claims.  My client shelled out money for two months until PPP so his employees can be ok financially.  And now when he got the PPP a few employees decided that PUA is a better paying job.

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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2020, 06:46:57 PM »
You made the snide remark so back it up.

Did I ever say the USPS doesn't serve a purpose? Or that it shouldn't get funds? All I said is that you're biased. Had this been a legal proceeding and you would be the judge, you would be expected to recuse yourself.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2020, 06:54:28 PM »
You are a lazy SCUMBAG!!!
This was harsh and was meant that way to make a point. There will be those in the low income bracket where it will be a hard decision.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2020, 06:58:09 PM »
Did I ever say the USPS doesn't serve a purpose? Or that it shouldn't get funds? All I said is that you're biased. Had this been a legal proceeding and you would be the judge, you would be expected to recuse yourself.
Wow is that a nice pretzel.  :)
You claimed I was bias and couldn't see any reason not to give them money. You are wrong on both accounts.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2020, 07:05:15 PM »
This was harsh and was meant that way to make a point. There will be those in the low income bracket where it will be a hard decision.
definitely harsh,many people making less then the current UI deal were likely  struggling to make ends meet as it is.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2020, 07:07:50 PM »
definitely harsh,many people making less then the current UI deal were likely  struggling to make ends meet as it is.
Those are the ones I feel bad for.
If my two kids who are making a little bit more than working told me they weren't going to go back to work they would be kicked out of the house.
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Re: $3 trillion coronavirus relief plan!!!
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2020, 07:11:53 PM »
Lose out as in raise wages to compete with UI? Or that he won't fire them after? Because technically they can all go back on UI after those 8 weeks are over.
The former. He will fire them after if he is unable to reopen
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