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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2020, 12:33:26 PM »
Correct. This is my point. People are running to get the tested so they can say I'm positive for antibodies, I can do whatever I want. But I haven't heard of any doctor/scientist actually telling people that, and the testing places are telling people specifically not like that. Plenty are saying the assumption is you're immune, but find me someone currently actually giving that as practical medical advice. Perhaps there are local doctors telling their patients such a thing. I have no idea.
You can have anti-bodies and be secreting the virus.


Anyone using the anti-body test to determine if they are negative for covid are fooling themselves.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #121 on: May 15, 2020, 12:37:06 PM »
You can have anti-bodies and be secreting the virus.


Anyone using the anti-body test to determine if they are negative for covid are fooling themselves.
What about if that is accompanied by a negative test (nasal swab)?

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #122 on: May 15, 2020, 12:38:35 PM »
What about if that is accompanied by a negative test (nasal swab)?
Current recommendation is 2 nasal swab tests 24 hours apart.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #123 on: May 15, 2020, 12:42:18 PM »
There are two totally separate programs:
  • Plasma drives. They run antibody tests to determine donor eligibility.
  • Research. They run an antibody test, plus provide a sample to NIH. Test also includes comprehensive questionnaire.

False.
It is one drive this Sunday:
"You will need to complete a 20 question survey. You will then receive an appointment slot to have 2 tubes of blood drawn on Sunday May 17. One specimen will be sent to the Mayo Clinic to test your antibodies. You will receive the result of this test. The other specimen will be submitted to the NIH to be used for extensive research and study in facilitating the historic developement. You will not receive these results"

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #124 on: May 15, 2020, 12:55:10 PM »
False.
It is one drive this Sunday:
"You will need to complete a 20 question survey. You will then receive an appointment slot to have 2 tubes of blood drawn on Sunday May 17. One specimen will be sent to the Mayo Clinic to test your antibodies. You will receive the result of this test. The other specimen will be submitted to the NIH to be used for extensive research and study in facilitating the historic developement. You will not receive these results"

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #125 on: May 15, 2020, 12:56:11 PM »
How does that contradict what I wrote?
I'm sorry I misread your post. Thought you said there were 2 separate drives...

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #126 on: May 15, 2020, 02:36:01 PM »
That graph shows IgG staying in the blood, not dropping to nil as the Dr claimed.
Like I said, hopefully just faulty testing.
he never said nil he said no longer enough to be used for plasma donation you can still spool up quickly if you get it again but your plasma cant spool up quickly in someone elses body

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #127 on: May 15, 2020, 03:00:42 PM »
he never said nil he said no longer enough to be used for plasma donation you can still spool up quickly if you get it again but your plasma cant spool up quickly in someone elses body
So it's good for immunity but not for plasma donation, which means that people who want plasma should do it asap (except that they might want to wait in case they don't have antibodies yet...)
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2020, 03:10:07 PM »
Correct (got this info confirmed from a few doctors)

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2020, 03:31:20 PM »
Oh so I’m downplaying it and he’s comparing it to the Holocaust. I think I’m much closer to reality then he is.

Well it's the best comparison I could think of. Where people were warned and ignored.

I just read that sailors on the ship got infected a second time.

What about that ? What if anti bodies or having had the virus means nothing ? And then you have to remember there are two types of the virus So what if you can get both?

What if we CV have another wave and another 2500 dead Jews? Will you then listen ?

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2020, 03:32:18 PM »
I'm scheduled to donate plasma next week, in one appointment they'll test for antibodies, do a covid test, and take the plasma, if it is established that the antibodies are too low the plasma is destroyed...
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #131 on: May 15, 2020, 03:36:30 PM »
he never said nil he said no longer enough to be used for plasma donation you can still POTENTIALLY spool up quickly if you get it again
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #132 on: May 15, 2020, 03:38:15 PM »
You can have anti-bodies and be secreting the virus.


Anyone using the anti-body test to determine if they are negative for covid are fooling themselves.

Anything could be.........

But antibody are only developed a few weeks in to the virus.
If you could still be spreading the virus while having anti bodies then the virus is contagious for more then a month. Something nobody says.
You could test positive for weeks after the virus is gone. It's from dead cells.
 

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #133 on: May 15, 2020, 03:39:08 PM »
Anything could be.........

But antibody are only developed a few weeks in to the virus.
If you could still be spreading the virus while having anti bodies then the virus is contagious for more then a month. Something nobody says.
You could test positive for weeks after the virus is gone. It's from dead cells.
 
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #134 on: May 15, 2020, 03:40:18 PM »
Anything could be.........

But antibody are only developed a few weeks in to the virus.
If you could still be spreading the virus while having anti bodies then the virus is contagious for more then a month. Something nobody says.
You could test positive for weeks after the virus is gone. It's from dead cells.
 
Where was this confirmed? Last I checked it was a theory that many doctors were assuming (hoping?).
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #135 on: May 15, 2020, 03:56:58 PM »
Well it's the best comparison I could think of. Where people were warned and ignored.

I just read that sailors on the ship got infected a second time.

What about that ? What if anti bodies or having had the virus means nothing ? And then you have to remember there are two types of the virus So what if you can get both?

What if we CV have another wave and another 2500 dead Jews? Will you then listen ?
Could you provide a source of this supposed reinfection of sailors?

It would be the first recorded reinfection.

You accuse me of not listening, I listen to doctors. But I will never listen to that unhinged doctor who has been proven wrong time and time again and has lied and tried to ruin people’s lives just to try and get some attention.

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #136 on: May 15, 2020, 04:00:03 PM »
Could you provide a source of this supposed reinfection of sailors?

It would be the first recorded reinfection.

You accuse me of not listening, I listen to doctors. But I will never listen to that unhinged doctor who has been proven wrong time and time again and has lied and tried to ruin people’s lives just to try and get some attention.
I’d also like to see that, and also proof that it was a reinfection not just continued infection. What did Ditchek get proven wrong about and lie about? He has seemed a bit over the top.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #137 on: May 15, 2020, 04:05:23 PM »
I’d also like to see that, and also proof that it was a reinfection not just continued infection. What did Ditchek get proven wrong about and lie about? He has seemed a bit over the top.
He lied about how he knows the camps were told they aren’t being allowed to reopen and made an insinuation that they are just lying so they could take your money.

I asked a couple doctors today and they told me that it’s completely normal for antibody levels to drop after infection.

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« Reply #138 on: May 15, 2020, 04:06:56 PM »
He lied about how he knows the camps were told they aren’t being allowed to reopen and made an insinuation that they are just lying so they could take your money.

I asked a couple doctors today and they told me that it’s completely normal for antibody levels to drop after infection.
Well, he could have been referring to Sullivan County officials who early on said they wouldn’t allow it and one congressman sent a letter to Cuomo. They changed their tune later on.
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« Reply #139 on: May 15, 2020, 04:07:34 PM »
I asked a couple doctors today and they told me that it’s completely normal for antibody levels to drop after infection.

What’s with everyone having access to so many doctors? You and @chevron both. Jewish, I guess ;)
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