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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #480 on: July 13, 2022, 02:28:28 AM »

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #481 on: July 13, 2022, 08:00:25 AM »

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #482 on: July 13, 2022, 10:09:28 AM »
His sister?
sister in law. the biden family has a mesora from esavs family.

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #483 on: July 13, 2022, 01:59:28 PM »
Fox News: Exclusive: Read the private email Obama sent his former doc after he questioned Biden's cognitive health.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exclusive-read-private-email-obama-sent-former-doc-after-questioned-bidens-cognitive-health
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #484 on: July 15, 2022, 02:58:27 PM »
If he was briefed beforehand, this is pretty bad. And the headline should be something like Biden Extends his hand after being told not to.


Religious singer refuses to shake hands with President Biden | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #485 on: July 15, 2022, 03:22:53 PM »
If he was briefed beforehand, this is pretty bad. And the headline should be something like Biden Extends his hand after being told not to.


Religious singer refuses to shake hands with President Biden | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva
Want the whole trip supposed to be handshake free?

Interesting how this is right after she sang in front of a bunch of men.
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #486 on: July 15, 2022, 03:35:41 PM »
Want the whole trip supposed to be handshake free?

Interesting how this is right after she sang in front of a bunch of men.
She is newly religious.

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #488 on: July 16, 2022, 10:23:31 PM »
She is newly religious.
That makes sense. Bottom Line is that this was a tremendous kiddush hashem.
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #489 on: July 18, 2022, 03:52:56 PM »
If he was briefed beforehand, this is pretty bad. And the headline should be something like Biden Extends his hand after being told not to.


Religious singer refuses to shake hands with President Biden | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva
I would be very surprised if Biden's staff wasn't informed. She claims to have told Herzog's staff numerous times and this is apparently a well known thing in Israel.
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #490 on: July 18, 2022, 06:38:59 PM »
That makes sense. Bottom Line is that this was a tremendous kiddush hashem.

Asking honestly, I don't understand how a female singer singing in public in front of males causes a Kiddush Hashem by not shaking said male's hands.

Am I missing something?

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #491 on: July 18, 2022, 06:48:13 PM »
Asking honestly, I don't understand how a female singer singing in public in front of males causes a Kiddush Hashem by not shaking said male's hands.

Am I missing something?
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #492 on: July 18, 2022, 07:06:30 PM »
Asking honestly, I don't understand how a female singer singing in public in front of males causes a Kiddush Hashem by not shaking said male's hands.

Am I missing something?

She is newly religious.
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #493 on: July 18, 2022, 07:07:35 PM »


I get it, so shes excused for singing publicly, but does that make it into a Kiddush Hashem?

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #494 on: July 18, 2022, 07:10:27 PM »
Asking honestly, I don't understand how a female singer singing in public in front of males causes a Kiddush Hashem by not shaking said male's hands.

Am I missing something?
Why does one action that was not a kiddush hashem take away from the kiddush hashem of the other action?
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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #495 on: July 18, 2022, 07:10:54 PM »
A Kiddush Hashem does not mean making Goyim admire Yidden. Kiddush Hashem is doing Hashem's will despite difficulties, thus promoting the Glory of Hashem on this world.

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #496 on: July 18, 2022, 10:02:23 PM »
I get it, so shes excused for singing publicly, but does that make it into a Kiddush Hashem?
So there's a chilul Hashem beshogeg (if she's newly religious and doesn't know not to sing, although singing she doesn't know shaking hands she knows? Reminds of the joke about the guy who wouldn't eat a cheeseburger bc the cheese was Cholov stam) or be'ones (if the pressure of giving up singing is too much for her) and the kiddush Hashem of not shaking hands? (acc. to what seems to be interpretation of yoma 86a, although some may read הבריות אומרות עליו as public opinion which would possibly reverse which ones the kiddush and chilul)
(above I'm noting seriously)


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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #497 on: July 19, 2022, 12:51:17 AM »
A Kiddush Hashem does not mean making Goyim admire Yidden. Kiddush Hashem is doing Hashem's will despite difficulties, thus promoting the Glory of Hashem on this world.

This is a common fantasy. At times Kiddush hashem calls for not following the Torah solely in order to appear better in Goyims eyes. See following sources:

גיטין מ״ו א:ו׳-ז׳
ה ורבנן התם מי חלה שבועה עילוייהו כלל כיון דאמרו להו מארץ רחוקה באנו ולא באו לא חיילה שבועה עילוייהו כלל והאי דלא קטלינהו משום קדושת השם


תלמוד ירושלמי בבא קמא י״ט ב:ג׳
מעשה ששילח המלכות שני איסטרטיוטות ללמוד תורה מרבן גמליאל ולמדו ממנו מקרא משנה תלמוד הלכות ואגדות ובסוף אמרו לו כל תורתכם נאה ומשובחת חוץ משני דברים הללו שאתם אומרים בת ישראל לא תיילד לעכו"ם אבל עכו"ם מיילדת לבת ישראל ברשותה גזילו של ישראל אסור ושל עכו"ם מותר. באותו שעה גזר רבן גמליאל על גזילות עכו"ם שיהא אסור מפי חילול השם.

משנה תורה, הלכות מלכים ומלחמות ו׳:ה׳
שְׁלֹשָׁה כְּתָבִים שָׁלַח יְהוֹשֻׁעַ עַד שֶׁלֹּא נִכְנַס לָאָרֶץ. הָרִאשׁוֹן שָׁלַח לָהֶם מִי שֶׁרוֹצֶה לִבְרֹחַ יִבְרַח. וְחָזַר וְשָׁלַח מִי שֶׁרוֹצֶה לְהַשְׁלִים יַשְׁלִים. וְחָזַר וְשָׁלַח מִי שֶׁרוֹצֶה לַעֲשׂוֹת מִלְחָמָה יַעֲשֶׂה. אִם כֵּן מִפְּנֵי מָה הֶעֱרִימוּ יוֹשְׁבֵי גִּבְעוֹן. לְפִי שֶׁשָּׁלַח לָהֶם בַּכְּלָל וְלֹא קִבְּלוּ. וְלֹא יָדְעוּ מִשְׁפַּט יִשְׂרָאֵל וְדִמּוּ שֶׁשּׁוּב אֵין פּוֹתְחִין לָהֶם לְשָׁלוֹם. וְלָמָּה קָשָׁה הַדָּבָר לַנְּשִׂיאִים וְרָאוּ שֶׁרָאוּי לְהַכּוֹתָם לְפִי חֶרֶב לוּלֵי הַשְּׁבוּעָה. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכָּרְתוּ לָהֶם בְּרִית וַהֲרֵי הוּא אוֹמֵר (דברים ז, ב) "לֹא תִכְרֹת לָהֶם בְּרִית" אֶלָּא הָיָה דִּינָם שֶׁיִּהְיוּ לְמַס עֲבָדִים. וְהוֹאִיל וּבְטָעוּת נִשְׁבְּעוּ לָהֶן בְּדִין הָיָה שֶׁיֵּהָרְגוּ עַל שֶׁהִטְעוּם לוּלֵי חִלּוּל הַשֵּׁם:



In fact, the Gemara יומא פ״ו ע״א explicitly discusses Kiddush Hashem by impressing people with simple honesty

ביי אמר כדתניא (דברים ו, ה) וואהבת את ה' אלהיך שיהא שם שמים מתאהב על ידך שיהא קורא ושונה ומשמש ת"ח ויהא משאו ומתנו בנחת עם הבריות מה הבריות אומרות עליו אשרי אביו שלמדו תורה אשרי רבו שלמדו תורה אוי להם לבריות שלא למדו תורה פלוני שלמדו תורה ראו כמה נאים דרכיו כמה מתוקנים מעשיו עליו הכתוב אומר (ישעיהו מט, ג) ויאמר לי עבדי אתה ישראל אשר בך אתפאר


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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #498 on: July 19, 2022, 06:47:27 AM »
This is a common fantasy. At times Kiddush hashem calls for not following the Torah solely in order to appear better in Goyims eyes. See following sources:

In fact, the Gemara יומא פ״ו ע״א explicitly discusses Kiddush Hashem by impressing people with simple honesty

ביי אמר כדתניא (דברים ו, ה) וואהבת את ה' אלהיך שיהא שם שמים מתאהב על ידך שיהא קורא ושונה ומשמש ת"ח ויהא משאו ומתנו בנחת עם הבריות מה הבריות אומרות עליו אשרי אביו שלמדו תורה אשרי רבו שלמדו תורה אוי להם לבריות שלא למדו תורה פלוני שלמדו תורה ראו כמה נאים דרכיו כמה מתוקנים מעשיו עליו הכתוב אומר (ישעיהו מט, ג) ויאמר לי עבדי אתה ישראל אשר בך אתפאר

Rashi in Yoma 86a seems pretty clear that kiddush/chilul Hashem is about doing mitzvos or aveiros.
חילול השם - חוטא ומחטיא אחרים
באמור להם עם ה' אלה - את זו קרא הכתוב חילול השם כשאדם חשוב עובר עבירה ופורענות באה עליו

Although as I mentioned:
(acc. to what seems to be interpretation of yoma 86a, although some may read הבריות אומרות עליו as public opinion which would possibly reverse which ones the kiddush and chilul)

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Re: What is your favorite Biden gaffe?
« Reply #499 on: July 19, 2022, 08:42:23 AM »


This is a common fantasy. At times Kiddush hashem calls for not following the Torah solely in order to appear better in Goyims eyes. See following sources:

It doesn't say this in any of those sources
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