Should businesses be given liability protection?

[CountValentine]

The ability to sue is a pretty good method of ensuring the business is motivated to keep you safe.

He knows that, hence my trolling comment.

[yuneeq]

I think that absolutely the ability to sue businesses for corona is very important. There are many businesses forcing their employees to work in unsafe conditions or refuse to give them masks, etc. Gross negligence should always be open for lawsuits. But at the same time, I would like the gov to set a high bar for what is considered a liability. For example - if an employee is not allowed to wear a mask, or isn’t provided with a mask and gets sick, let him sue the employer dry. But otherwise, let it slide. I think from a customer perspective, I can’t find a lot of examples, but if an essential store allows workers to walk around without masks, and one coughs on a customer, that is gross negligence and they should be liable.

[yuneeq]

He knows that, hence my trolling comment.

As someone who makes consumer products, I can tell you there’s a real effect. If I design a stroller that looks and works great, but who knows, maybe it will collapse and kill a few babies, well most people will still buy my stroller because it won’t happen to them, and my company is no different than any other company that  might have the same concerns. With the idea of liability, I know that my product must be tested thoroughly and safe in every imaginable way. There are products I stay away from until I have the capability to address the risks properly.

I still think with corona being so contagious and difficult to prevent, that we can’t set a low bar for liability, but that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a bar at all.

[CountValentine]

I still think with corona being so contagious and difficult to prevent, that we can’t set a low bar for liability, but that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a bar at all.

This!!!

[Afrages6]

This!!!

But again. How can we prevent ambulance chasers?

What if someone’s mask slips a little bit? Can a consumer claim that as gross negligence?

[CountValentine]

But again. How can we prevent ambulance chasers?

What if someone’s mask slips a little bit? Can a consumer claim that as gross negligence?

There is no easy answer. One answer that is unacceptable is making them exempt from lawsuits.

[Afrages6]

There is no easy answer. One answer that is unacceptable is making them exempt from lawsuits.

How about this. I’ll be in favor of a law that says you could sue but if you lose then the plaintiff must assume defendants legal fees.

[CountValentine]

How about this. I’ll be in favor of a law that says you could sue but if you lose then the plaintiff must assume defendants legal fees.

So only the rich can sue. No that is a very bad idea.

[Afrages6]

So only the rich can sue. No that is a very bad idea.

Or you could only sue if you have a legit case.

[ExGingi]

You shouldn't vote with that logic. 

Logic or not, I don't vote in the general election, and while I used to participate in local elections, that seems to be fruitless too, so I'm not sure I would do that either until there's redistricting that warrants reconsideration.

[S209]

Or you could only sue if you have a legit case.

That’s sort of how lawsuits work. If it’s frivolous it can be thrown out.

This applies to everything in life, why should COVID be different than any other time where not adhering to guidelines and restrictions that are set by the government that result in harm to a customer should be grounds for a lawsuit? You can literally sue for slipping on someone’s unshoveled snow. That makes more sense?

[S209]

Anyone voting that businesses should be given liability protection, realize what you are voting for: that the government offer a new program to subsidize businesses that don’t want to use the free market to attract customers in a safe way.

[Afrages6]

Anyone voting that businesses should be given liability protection, realize what you are voting for: that the government offer a new program to subsidize businesses that don’t want to use the free market to attract customers in a safe way.

That’s just not true.

[Afrages6]

That’s sort of how lawsuits work. If it’s frivolous it can be thrown out.

This applies to everything in life, why should COVID be different than any other time where not adhering to guidelines and restrictions that are set by the government that result in harm to a customer should be grounds for a lawsuit? You can literally sue for slipping on someone’s unshoveled snow. That makes more sense?

It can be thrown out but it usually incurs a great cost to the business owners which they can’t really afford. Especially if lawsuits will be some a dozen. Of course the guidelines should be followed but the enforcement should be from the DOH.

[aygart]

That’s sort of how lawsuits work. If it’s frivolous it can be thrown out.

LOL after paying 50-100k to lawyers. BTDT.

[aygart]

I think that absolutely the ability to sue businesses for corona is very important. There are many businesses forcing their employees to work in unsafe conditions or refuse to give them masks, etc. Gross negligence should always be open for lawsuits. But at the same time, I would like the gov to set a high bar for what is considered a liability. For example - if an employee is not allowed to wear a mask, or isn’t provided with a mask and gets sick, let him sue the employer dry. But otherwise, let it slide. I think from a customer perspective, I can’t find a lot of examples, but if an essential store allows workers to walk around without masks, and one coughs on a customer, that is gross negligence and they should be liable.

Something like this?

A middle ground may be to make very specific and doable guidelines and only be able to sue if those are not kept.

[S209]

LOL after paying 50-100k to lawyers. BTDT.

It can be thrown out but it usually incurs a great cost to the business owners which they can’t really afford. Especially if lawsuits will be some a dozen. Of course the guidelines should be followed but the enforcement should be from the DOH.

So I’m guessing you both don’t believe in people being able to sue a business for other safety violations, and it should be purely up to the DOH to enforce (with complaints)? The same argument can be applied.

ETA: Saw your next post. Agreed.

[Afrages6]

So I’m guessing you both don’t believe in people being able to sue a business for other safety violations, and it should be purely up to the DOH to enforce (with complaints)? The same argument can be applied.

ETA: Saw your next post. Agreed.

If there is a way to protect both business from frivolous lawsuits and costumers from negligence then I am all for it.

[S209]

If there is a way to protect both business from frivolous lawsuits and costumers from negligence then I am all for it.

A middle ground may be to make very specific and doable guidelines and only be able to sue if those are not kept.

So we agree to this.

[Afrages6]

Anyone voting that businesses should be given liability protection, realize what you are voting for: that the government offer a new program to subsidize businesses that don’t want to use the free market to attract customers in a safe way.

Do you see the problem I have with this statement?