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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #280 on: June 07, 2020, 12:10:35 AM »
Then why is this at all relevant? In Judaism we have people who died for being Jewish and are considered martyrs even though they were far from tadikim. The gemora has many examples of it.

They aren't hallowed as heroes or called kedoshim for nothing. They were killed simply for being Jewish, hence their martyrdom. George Floyd wasn't killed for being black. He was killed (in his capacity as a criminal), by a cruel cop who had to assert his authority.

You are comparing apples to rotten pineapples...
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #281 on: June 07, 2020, 12:11:33 AM »
Then why is this at all relevant?
Going to take a wild guess and say this was a rhetorical question?
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #282 on: June 07, 2020, 12:12:54 AM »
They aren't hallowed as heroes or called kedoshim for nothing. They were killed simply for being Jewish, hence their martyrdom. George Floyd wasn't killed for being black. He was killed (in his capacity as a criminal), by a cruel cop who had to assert his authority.

You are comparing apples to pineapples...


Those who are considering him a martyr feel that it was because he was black. Therefore it makes sense for them to consider him a martyr.
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #283 on: June 07, 2020, 12:14:14 AM »
Then why is this at all relevant? In Judaism we have people who died for being Jewish and are considered martyrs even though they were far from tadikim. The gemora has many examples of it. There is no reason at all for this to be at all relevant and serves no purpose other that to distract and keep the problems in place.
From what I know, the only thing you can fault him for, is resisting arrest. Which seems to be the case in the Eric Gardner story and most other times. It’s not a reason to be killed, but maybe it’s not the smartest thing to do if you value your life

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #284 on: June 07, 2020, 12:14:58 AM »
Then why is this at all relevant? In Judaism we have people who died for being Jewish and are considered martyrs even though they were far from tadikim. The gemora has many examples of it. There is no reason at all for this to be at all relevant and serves no purpose other that to distract and keep the problems in place.
It really isn’t relevant. It’s a horrific murder. Doesn’t matter who he was, but then again, NPR and the rest of the media think it is relevant. They are all running with “gentle giant”.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/864410788/a-look-at-george-floyds-life-that-ended-in-the-police-custody

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #285 on: June 07, 2020, 12:15:55 AM »
Those who are considering him a martyr feel that it was because he was black. Therefore it makes sense for them to consider him a martyr.
Which as far as we know is untrue.

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #286 on: June 07, 2020, 12:16:44 AM »
It really isn’t relevant. It’s a horrific murder. Doesn’t matter who he was, but then again, NPR and the rest of the media think it is relevant. They are all running with “gentle giant”.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/864410788/a-look-at-george-floyds-life-that-ended-in-the-police-custody
Could the gentle giant be the man he became and not was?
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #287 on: June 07, 2020, 12:17:10 AM »
It really isn’t relevant. It’s a horrific murder. Doesn’t matter who he was, but then again, NPR and the rest of the media think it is relevant. They are all running with “gentle giant”.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/864410788/a-look-at-george-floyds-life-that-ended-in-the-police-custody
Which version is true? The Yated had the gentle giant version and I thought he only puts in right wing political views

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #288 on: June 07, 2020, 12:17:42 AM »
Which as far as we know is untrue.
As far as we know we don't know.
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #289 on: June 07, 2020, 12:17:58 AM »
Those who are considering him a martyr feel that it was because he was black. Therefore it makes sense for them to consider him a martyr.

Again, he wasn't killed because he was black, thus making him a martyr. He was killed in the acting capacity of a criminal resisting arrest.

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #290 on: June 07, 2020, 12:24:29 AM »
Again, he wasn't killed because he was black, thus making him a martyr. He was killed in the acting capacity of a criminal resisting arrest.
This is nothing more than victim blaming.
A girl gets rape. It is terrible she was raped BUT look the way she dressed.  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #291 on: June 07, 2020, 12:24:31 AM »
From what I know, the only thing you can fault him for, is resisting arrest. \
He was killed in the acting capacity of a criminal resisting arrest.

Is there any evidence that he was resisting arrest? The surveillance video seemed to show him being very cooperative.
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #292 on: June 07, 2020, 12:26:07 AM »
Again, he wasn't killed because he was black, thus making him a martyr.

They disagree with you. That is what it depends on and nothing at all to do with whether or not he was a good person. al that does is perpetuate problems.
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« Reply #293 on: June 07, 2020, 12:26:45 AM »
This is nothing more than victim blaming.
A girl gets rape. It is terrible she was raped BUT look the way she dressed.  >:( >:( >:(
Bad comparison.
In this case there is no evidence that the officer acted any differently than he would have had the criminal been white.

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #294 on: June 07, 2020, 12:27:30 AM »
Could the gentle giant be the man he became and not was?

It’s possible. He wasn’t charged with any additional violent crimes since his 2014 release from prison. He was apparently currently passing counterfeit currency and driving around high on  fentanyl and methamphetamine so not exactly a guy you want on the streets.

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #295 on: June 07, 2020, 12:30:03 AM »
They disagree with you. That is what it depends on and nothing at all to do with whether or not he was a good person. al that does is perpetuate problems.
The problem is, that the media is aggravating the issue by trying to paint the picture black and white (both literally and metaphorically).
Innocent black George vs. evil racist cop.

What this is doing is adding some color to the picture, giving the issue some perspective.

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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #296 on: June 07, 2020, 12:31:33 AM »
Bad comparison.
In this case there is no evidence that the officer acted any differently than he would have had the criminal been white.
WOW did you miss the point. I am talking about YOU!!!
You are victim blaming!!!
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #298 on: June 07, 2020, 12:34:57 AM »
The problem is, that the media is aggravating the issue by trying to paint the picture black and white (both literally and metaphorically).
Innocent black George vs. evil racist cop.

What this is doing is adding some color to the picture, giving the issue some perspective.
A crime commited 5 years ago adds no perspective and all and bringing it into the discussion where it is not relevant in the slightest does more to aggravate the issue. It is black and white considering that, despite your assertion, there seems to be no indication at all that he was resisting arrest. I am not surprised that you are choosing to ignore my calling you out on that.
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Re: George floyd was murdered by the MPD on tape.
« Reply #299 on: June 07, 2020, 12:35:48 AM »
WOW did you miss the point. I am talking about YOU!!!
You are victim blaming!!!
You totally missed my point.
 Whereas dressing provocatively can be attributed as a reason for a rape crime, as inexcusable as it may be, skin color did not play a single role in the cop criminal exchange.
It was a frustrated cop exerting his authority over his latest criminal catch, whatever color he may be.