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Put up or shut up time
« on: May 27, 2020, 07:54:53 AM »
The back and forth on this forum between the "it's over, COVID is done" vs. "humanity is certain to die out due to COVID-19" is nauseating (especially when in actuality, that's likely neither sides real opinion).
So....let's make this real. Right now there are 100K deaths in the US.
For all the people who are on side 1, pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is greater than 350K.
For all those on side 2,  pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is less than 200K.
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 07:58:46 AM »
I thought about that but it may be illegal gambling
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 08:08:40 AM »
What about those saying it is to early to know yet?
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 08:09:46 AM »
What about those saying it is to early to know yet?

+1

And "it's over, Covid is done" but the death toll will still double?
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 08:12:31 AM »
Whose  numbers will it go by? From what I hear, the numbers are being played with

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2020, 08:54:20 AM »
Often it's hard to define what exactly killed a patient...

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 10:15:43 AM »
Whose  numbers will it go by? From what I hear, the numbers are being played with
Who’s numbers will it go by? From what I hear, many COVID deaths are not being reported so there is a severe undercount
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2020, 10:16:56 AM »
Who’s numbers will it go by? From what I hear, many COVID deaths are not being reported so there is a severe undercount
Sounds like you are asking the same question. How about excess deaths over the average?
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 10:20:48 AM »
Sounds like you are asking the same question. How about excess deaths over the average?

Sounds good. Where are you getting those numbers from?
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2020, 10:23:15 AM »
The back and forth on this forum between the "it's over, COVID is done" vs. "humanity is certain to die out due to COVID-19" is nauseating (especially when in actuality, that's likely neither sides real opinion).
So....let's make this real. Right now there are 100K deaths in the US.
For all the people who are on side 1, pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is greater than 350K.
For all those on side 2,  pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is less than 200K.
It’s an interesting idea. The main problem is I haven’t seen anyone here saying that humanity is certain to die out (though there have been posters who said outright COVID is done). Are you saying both of the opinions you referred to have been mentioned on these forums? Perhaps I just haven’t seen them.

AFAIK there is an extreme fringe that says “it’s over”, and many shades of gray following that with those most extreme on the other side believing “There is an extreme statistical likelihood it will get worse without significant intervention”.

Obviously, many more factors will be in play in for both sides, considering a cure, vaccine, more data, or government restrictions or lack thereof can change the picture completely.
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2020, 10:24:04 AM »
Sounds like you are asking the same question. How about excess deaths over the average?
It’s an idea, but you can make the argument that other factors related to the circumstances are causing some of them
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2020, 10:29:03 AM »
It’s an idea, but you can make the argument that other factors related to the circumstances are causing some of them
I can assure you that we will know how many additional cncer deaths there are.
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2020, 10:31:17 AM »
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2020, 10:33:15 AM »
This thread:



*I post this gif with a heavy heart, knowing it may end up with the same fate as Chaim, who was stolen from me and has since been overworked, underpaid and abused.

Gold. And it will most definitely get jacked.
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2020, 10:35:24 AM »
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*I post this gif with a heavy heart, knowing it may end up with the same fate as Chaim, who was stolen from me and has since been overworked, underpaid and abused.

Maybe it will give him a well deserved rest.
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2020, 10:54:47 AM »
The back and forth on this forum between the "it's over, COVID is done" vs. "humanity is certain to die out due to COVID-19" is nauseating (especially when in actuality, that's likely neither sides real opinion).
So....let's make this real. Right now there are 100K deaths in the US.
For all the people who are on side 1, pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is greater than 350K.
For all those on side 2,  pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is less than 200K.

What about those that say that we would have hit 350,000 deaths either way? Or those that say 350,000 deaths is an acceptable cost for avoiding a shut down and doing business as usual?

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2020, 10:56:51 AM »
Sooo here we have another thread that's just ultimately a

back and forth
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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2020, 12:05:00 AM »
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*I post this gif with a heavy heart, knowing it may end up with the same fate as Chaim, who was stolen from me and has since been overworked, underpaid and abused.

How many DDFers does it take to move a goalpost?

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2020, 12:06:44 AM »
The back and forth on this forum between the "it's over, COVID is done" vs. "humanity is certain to die out due to COVID-19" is nauseating (especially when in actuality, that's likely neither sides real opinion).
So....let's make this real. Right now there are 100K deaths in the US.
For all the people who are on side 1, pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is greater than 350K.
For all those on side 2,  pledge to give $1K to coronavirus victims campaigns if the final total of deaths is less than 200K.

This is uneven.

Side 1 hits 350k R”L and they must pay out
Side 2 can just tell you to keep waiting for the second wave, or COVID-22 R”L

How do you definitively decide side 2 lost?

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Re: Put up or shut up time
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2020, 12:07:06 AM »
How many DDFers does it take to move a goalpost?
Just one should do the trick.