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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1040 on: June 04, 2020, 05:20:55 PM »
Well this makes it pretty clear

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https://twitter.com/EdFelten/status/1267838832298393602
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1041 on: June 04, 2020, 05:24:10 PM »
Well this makes it pretty clear
What is artificial CS tear gas? Generic, fake or something else.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1043 on: June 04, 2020, 05:29:38 PM »
Well this makes it pretty clear

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https://twitter.com/EdFelten/status/1267838832298393602
So he claims they gathered the canisters on Monday after being gassed, saved it until today and just remembered to take pictures? I guess it makes it pretty clear but only if you believe him.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1044 on: June 04, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »
Lets see. Using force against a peaceful protest? You are right nothing to do with this thread.  ::)
Oh I didn’t realize we were looking back on the history of protests and police misconduct. No question they existed. May as well post the 1963 videos of the white animals from Birmingham using dogs and fire hoses to attack innocent black kids.

https://voicesofthecivilrightsmovement.com/Video-Collection/2015/12/04/black-children-arrested-assaulted-in-birmingham/

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1045 on: June 04, 2020, 05:32:34 PM »
So he claims they gathered the canisters on Monday after being gassed, saved it until today and just remembered to take pictures? I guess it makes it pretty clear but only if you believe him?
How about the clergy, news reporters and others that say they were gassed?
Either they are liars or Trump and his admin are. That is really a hard one based on past practice.  :)
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1046 on: June 04, 2020, 05:34:11 PM »
Oh I didn’t realize we were looking back on the history of protests and police misconduct. No question they existed. May as well post the 1963 videos of the white animals from Birmingham using dogs and fire hoses to attack innocent black kids.

https://voicesofthecivilrightsmovement.com/Video-Collection/2015/12/04/black-children-arrested-assaulted-in-birmingham/
The point was a repeat of history.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1047 on: June 04, 2020, 05:39:42 PM »
How about the clergy, news reporters and others that say they were gassed?
Either they are liars or Trump and his admin are. That is really a hard one based on past practice.  :)
If they never experienced it, they can be mistaking and think the smoke was tear gas, and yes, many reporters are liars. Also, I never knew the DC park police is part of the Trump administration.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1048 on: June 04, 2020, 05:41:40 PM »
May as well post the 1963 videos of the white animals from Birmingham using dogs and fire hoses to attack innocent black kids.
...but that is not happening here. That would be a dishonest comparison (free opening for the haters).
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1049 on: June 04, 2020, 05:43:27 PM »
If they never experienced it, they can be mistaking and think the smoke was tear gas, and yes, many reporters are liars. Also, I never knew the DC park police is part of the Trump administration.
Is the DC park police saying they didn't use these canisters? Maybe they are playing semantics?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1050 on: June 04, 2020, 05:48:30 PM »
Is the DC park police saying they didn't use these canisters? Maybe they are playing semantics?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/park-police-defends-actions-clearing-protesters-near-white-house-says-no-tear-gas-was-used

Sorry, I see now it was the US Park Police, I don't know how closely they work with the administration, but my overall point stands.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1051 on: June 04, 2020, 05:59:18 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/park-police-defends-actions-clearing-protesters-near-white-house-says-no-tear-gas-was-used

Sorry, I see now it was the US Park Police, I don't know how closely they work with the administration, but my overall point stands.
Do you understand tear gas covers several different agents. One of those is the an agent in pepper balls. Like I said it is semantics. Now if you want to go by the official CDC description it was teargas. Now you won't to keep digging the whole hole?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1052 on: June 04, 2020, 06:01:52 PM »
Do you understand tear gas covers several different agents. One of those is the an agent in pepper balls. Like I said it is semantics. Now if you want to go by the official CDC description it was teargas. Now you won't to keep digging the whole?

He wants it to be a hole whole.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1053 on: June 04, 2020, 06:03:48 PM »
He wants it to be a hole whole.
Better?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1055 on: June 04, 2020, 06:20:58 PM »
IMHO burning the flag has a totally different meaning. We will just disagree instead of going 20 pages.  ;)
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1056 on: June 04, 2020, 06:25:14 PM »
1. Are we allowed to look at what happened there that night in the context of everything else going on then? Or do we need to pretend it happened in a vacuum?
In other words, can we say that the police should've done a better job differentiating between the violent and non-violent protestors, or do we need to only say that the police shouldn't have used force against non-violent protestors?

2. Which of the following 2 scenarios is more likely?
A. Trump called the cops out there and told them "I want to go take pictures in front of the Church, go shoot tear gas at those protesters to make them leave -and make sure you beat a few journalists while you're at it. This is going to be the biggest, most perfect protest clearing ever."
B. Trumps people came to him and said that it would be a great symbolic gesture if he went to the church for a photo op, and he answered "Does it really need to be a church? And do I really need to hold a bible?? I don't even know which side is up." Well he agreed to go and word got passed down from the white house that the street needed to be cleared ASAP. The cops on the ground got a little overzealous and used methods they normally wouldn't for such a protest.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1057 on: June 04, 2020, 07:20:14 PM »
ok so lets agree that it was wrong to use tear gas on peaceful protesters now how would you clear the area if you know it has to get done and you already asked nicely more then once? just curious ...

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1058 on: June 04, 2020, 07:25:47 PM »
ok so lets agree that it was wrong to use tear gas on peaceful protesters now how would you clear the area if you know it has to get done and you already asked nicely more then once? just curious ...
wait for curfew?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #1059 on: June 04, 2020, 07:40:04 PM »
wait for curfew?

okay but we have seen that most are not keeping to curfew ...there are videos and pics all over with people making fun of the curfew or stating that they don't plan on keeping to it