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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2020, 09:59:46 AM »
Have you ever seen a protest in Israel?
I'm talking about riots not protests. And yes I've seen them, cops come and ask people to leave, if they don't they get beaten up

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2020, 10:03:25 AM »
I fully agree, but what about people who feel, rightly or not, that they will not get justice groom the justice system.

This was only a quote.
U didn't mention it was a quote :). And after de blasio pulled his stunt with the levaya and then the NYPD giving out tickets only to frum people not wearing masks. You didn't see any frum people rioting or anything like that. The normal human reaction to an unjustified death, is not causing more death, looting, and burning down buildings.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2020, 10:08:39 AM »
U didn't mention it was a quote :). And after de blasio pulled his stunt with the levaya and then the NYPD giving out tickets only to frum people not wearing masks. You didn't see any frum people rioting or anything like that. The normal human reaction to an unjustified death, is not causing more death, looting, and burning down buildings.
I guess I overestimated the sechel of those who would read it. It was the full quote of MLK.

I will be very clear that I am not defending any violence or looting and that they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but anyone saying they should be shot is no better than them and just as much of a violent animal.

You need to look into their minds a bit. They feel that the system is rugged against them. Rightly or wrongly, it is a very serious issue. Until that issue is confronted this will keep happening.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2020, 10:13:26 AM »
I guess I overestimated the sechel of those who would read it. It was the full quote of MLK.

I will be very clear that I am not defending any violence or looting and that they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but anyone saying they should be shot is no better than them and just as much of a violent animal.

You need to look into their minds a bit. They feel that the system is rugged against them. Rightly or wrongly, it is a very serious issue. Until that issue is confronted this will keep happening.
Mlk wasn't exactly a stand up guy.  So I'm not familiar with all his quotes. But in any case what should change? Cops shouldn't pull over black people? And whats the privilege we have? 2 parents? Having jobs? Which one of these can't they have if they want to? Thats what I don't get.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2020, 10:18:59 AM »
Mlk wasn't exactly a stand up guy.  So I'm not familiar with all his quotes. But in any case what should change? Cops shouldn't pull over black people? And whats the privilege we have? 2 parents? Having jobs? Which one of these can't they have if they want to? Thats what I don't get.
If you can't look into their minds then you should just keep quiet. You need to be able to understand their point of view to have an opinion about it. Until then you are viewing from your experiences and not theirs. Even after, there is only so much you can see, but the first step is always to try and understand why they feel the way they do
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2020, 10:25:33 AM »
If you can't look into their minds then you should just keep quiet. You need to be able to understand their point of view to have an opinion about it. Until then you are viewing from your experiences and not theirs. Even after, there is only so much you can see, but the first step is always to try and understand why they feel the way they do
I don't think any of us can ascertain what's going on in their heads. But in any case regardless of what it is, the rioting has nothing to do with any of it. And every single one of them should probably be charged with domestic terrorism. Look at videos, thats literally what it is

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »
Gangs are also taking advantage of the situation to do some of their dirty work.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2020, 10:48:07 AM »
From one side the video of the police killing the black guy is so disturbing


But then you see this.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2020, 10:52:02 AM »
From one side the video of the police killing the black guy is so disturbing


But then you see this.

Why can't they both be highly disturbing?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2020, 10:52:06 AM »
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2020, 11:05:34 AM »
If you can't look into their minds then you should just keep quiet. You need to be able to understand their point of view to have an opinion about it. Until then you are viewing from your experiences and not theirs. Even after, there is only so much you can see, but the first step is always to try and understand why they feel the way they do
+1 @yaakov35 you SEEM to be a racist and are using the current situation as an excuse to express it. Please stop spewing rubbish on this thread. You seem to be more worried about the riots than the man who was killed. Yes the riots are a problem but let's not use it as an excuse to hate.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2020, 11:07:37 AM »
I assume you mean Biden caused it by saying ďif you donít vote for me you ainít blackĒ
So is that the narrative in the MSM? That Biden caused it?
Finally the truth is coming out!
Huh?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2020, 11:08:52 AM »
Why can't they both be highly disturbing?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2020, 11:09:40 AM »

Why condemn the CCP when we see this in the US?
Because I am sure that the CCP would have had the Police Chief saying that the arrest makes no sense and the CCP Governor would have made a strong apology for it.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2020, 11:16:06 AM »
+1 @yaakov35 you SEEM to be a racist and are using the current situation as an excuse to express it. Please stop spewing rubbish on this thread. You seem to be more worried about the riots than the man who was killed. Yes the riots are a problem but let's not use it as an excuse to hate.
Now we see why we have problems..
 Calling out rioters for being terrorists and your hating. Seems legit