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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #640 on: June 02, 2020, 06:34:11 PM »
Unlike DC where they used force on a peaceful protest. You just don't get it.
Wasn’t the story you posted, about the dc protest? Didn’t you say that the protest was totally peaceful? It seems from the headlines that it was largely peaceful. That would mean, that not everyone was peaceful. Which is not what you said. So yes, you would be correct. I don’t get it. What are you trying to prove? That as more information comes out, it turns out you were incorrect?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #641 on: June 02, 2020, 06:35:23 PM »
For those that believe looters are animals and should be shot does that apply here?

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I would differentiate between a couple of looters that can be grabbed and prosecuted, and hundreds of looters where the only way to disperse would be a couple of shots.
No matter skin color.
And while not every time someone steals they are labeled "animal", in these huge looting sprees with hundreds of people looting malls etc, there are usually a few not just taking loot, but throwing bricks. torching etc. Those are the animals that deserved to be shot at. And the rest that are participating in the looting may not deserve to be shot at for their act alone, the fact that they are sticking with the mob knowing full well there is no other way to disperse other than a few shots, lump them in for the time being.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #642 on: June 02, 2020, 06:35:45 PM »
With many of them he was absolutely right as can be seen by anyone willing.
Lets not kept this fake narrative up that I was calling anyone a racist. I believe in letting their posts speak for themselves unless it is something like referring to protesters as apes. 
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #643 on: June 02, 2020, 06:36:29 PM »
Hold on there. I didn't call anyone a racist or turn anyone into a racist.

You may not have called anyone a racist, you certainly have turned ppl into racists

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #644 on: June 02, 2020, 06:38:47 PM »

Ok got it.
I mostly agree. I would separate looters and rioters. Those smashing windows and stealing would be rioters IMHO. They are the worse of the worse.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #645 on: June 02, 2020, 06:40:25 PM »
You may not have called anyone a racist, you certainly have turned ppl into racists
WHAT? How did I turn someone into a racist?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #646 on: June 02, 2020, 06:41:35 PM »
Ok got it.
I mostly agree. I would separate looters and rioters. Those smashing windows and stealing would be rioters IMHO. They are the worse of the worse.
So your saying that the entire premise for your argument is based on semantics? What you call Rioters, and what someone else calls looters are the same thing.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #647 on: June 02, 2020, 06:42:04 PM »
Doesnt make sense to shoot someone not deserving to be shot to send a message to others.
We dont kill ppl that steal.
It doesn’t make sense to punish theft by shooting but society cannot function when there is chaos and fear and innocent people cannot go about their lives. Look at the Rockaway/ 5 Towns thread now.  Historically looters were usually shot not because shooting was the prescribed punishment for theft but because extreme measures are warranted to prevent the breakdown of society. It would probably be fair to warn looters before hand but once they are committing the act knowing that they are risking being shot I think that is a measure that would be warranted and justified given the situation.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #648 on: June 02, 2020, 06:42:33 PM »
Wasn’t the story you posted, about the dc protest? Didn’t you say that the protest was totally peaceful? It seems from the headlines that it was largely peaceful. That would mean, that not everyone was peaceful. Which is not what you said. So yes, you would be correct. I don’t get it. What are you trying to prove? That as more information comes out, it turns out you were incorrect?
Not sure which story you are talking about since I have posted many. The DC protest at the park was peaceful. Is that clear?  :)
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #650 on: June 02, 2020, 06:45:33 PM »
So your saying that the entire premise for your argument is based on semantics? What you call Rioters, and what someone else calls looters are the same thing.
Again which argument. I always separate rioters and looters. There is a big distinction between the two. There is also various degrees of looters as in the current discussion about the girl stealing clothes.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #651 on: June 02, 2020, 06:46:07 PM »
Not sure which story you are talking about since I have posted many. The DC protest at the park was peaceful. Is that clear?  :)
No. its not clear. Was it? Is this story about the dc protest, or a different one. Cuz if its about the dc protest, then it seems that it was largely peaceful, which is very different than totally peaceful. Would you agree with that distinction?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #652 on: June 02, 2020, 06:48:13 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/barr-personally-ordered-removal-of-protesters-near-white-house-leading-to-use-of-force-against-largely-peaceful-crowd/ar-BB14W1aB?ocid=spartanntp
I posted that to show that there is now a third version for attacking the peaceful protest. If you want to try and twist it into I posted it because of the headline go right ahead. I am used to that.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #653 on: June 02, 2020, 06:50:29 PM »
No. its not clear. Was it? Is this story about the dc protest, or a different one. Cuz if its about the dc protest, then it seems that it was largely peaceful, which is very different than totally peaceful. Would you agree with that distinction?
It was peaceful by the videos I saw. It was peaceful by the accounts of eye witnesses. Now if you have videos showing it not being peaceful I will correct my statements.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #654 on: June 02, 2020, 06:50:40 PM »
Again which argument. I always separate rioters and looters. There is a big distinction between the two. There is also various degrees of looters as in the current discussion about the girl stealing clothes.
Not sure that most people on this forum don’t agree with you. When people are referring to “animals” and i do not condone the use of that word, they are largely referring to the people that are smashing windows, and beating up random people and store owners. Anyone taking advantage of the situation, and following up after the thugs are done, are just plain criminals, or people that are using poor judgement and committing a criminal act. I highly doubt that most people on here, or anywhere would condone shooting of people who ran into a store, after the perpetrators cleared out.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #655 on: June 02, 2020, 06:52:52 PM »
I highly doubt that most people on here, or anywhere would condone shooting of people who ran into a store, after the perpetrators cleared out.
I agree not most but some do. Just read the thread.  ;)
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #656 on: June 02, 2020, 06:52:59 PM »
It was peaceful by the videos I saw. It was peaceful by the accounts of eye witnesses. Now if you have videos showing it not being peaceful I will correct my statements.
i have no additional information. Other then the article that you posted stating that it was largely peaceful. Which by definition means not entirely peaceful.  I really don’t think that we disagree, as much as you are trying to make it seem like. For whatever reason, maybe you are bored, and stuck at home due to covid, I don’t know, you seem to be trying to troll the forums.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #657 on: June 02, 2020, 06:56:44 PM »
i have no additional information. Other then the article that you posted stating that it was largely peaceful. Which by definition means not entirely peaceful.  I really don’t think that we disagree, as much as you are trying to make it seem like. For whatever reason, maybe you are bored, and stuck at home due to covid, I don’t know, you seem to be trying to troll the forums.
This is pretty funny. Look at those who liked your post. One of the persons said shoot the girl for stealing. You can't make this stuff up.

There is a pattern here and every now and then a member will acknowledge it. 
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #658 on: June 02, 2020, 07:05:11 PM »
This is pretty funny. Look at those who liked your post. One of the persons said shoot the girl for stealing. You can't make this stuff up.

There is a pattern here and every now and then a member will acknowledge it. 
whats the pattern, that some people are racist? Huge shocker!

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #659 on: June 02, 2020, 07:18:17 PM »
I miss this man. We need unity to make it through this. Sadly our 2020 candidates are not up for the task.

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