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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #800 on: June 03, 2020, 11:36:28 AM »
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #801 on: June 03, 2020, 11:36:29 AM »
Don't think I seen any footage but seen a lot of footage for NYC. Have a link?
To be fair and balanced I didn't see any in the rioting/looting footage either.  ;)

Some were posted above. New York is a big place. Not large communities of the ones you would immediately recognize as orthodox in Manhattan. If you are seeing on 5th Ave you are unlikely to see them there.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #803 on: June 03, 2020, 11:37:47 AM »
Some were posted above. New York is a big place. Not large communities of the ones you would immediately recognize as orthodox in Manhattan. If you are seeing on 5th Ave you are unlikely to see them there.
So basically they stay in their own community?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #804 on: June 03, 2020, 11:39:58 AM »
Any questions from yesterday need answering?  :)

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #805 on: June 03, 2020, 11:41:41 AM »
I need to get out more.  :)
Those Jewish activist sure don't dress like all the orthodox Jews I have met.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #806 on: June 03, 2020, 11:42:58 AM »
I'm not a hiker.

His question was, if you have communities where many people make bad choices on a consistent basis (i.e. the hood) is a cop a racist for reacting more strongly there than he would elsewhere?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #807 on: June 03, 2020, 11:43:54 AM »
Now that you brought it up have seen any orthodox Jews joining the peaceful protests? Do you even know of any that have?

Choose your own adventure

1) Orthodox Jews are still social distancing and didn't want to endanger anyone.
2) Orthodox want to join, but they know that if they do the cops will break up the protests because of the lack of social distancing, so they do the protests a favor by not showing up.
3) They are racists who want police to continue to brutally attack black people.
4) They agree with the protests but can't join because they are mixed gender.
5) While they agree with the underlying premise of Black Lives Matter, they do not agree with the anti-police rhetoric that the protests often espouse, especially considering they are in need of heavy police presence to be protected from anti-Semitic violence themselves.
6) They aren't sure yet if they are pro the protests or not because the meeting didn't happen yet.
7) They did join protests in their respective communities, which had smaller, localized protests which weren't shown on national TV.
8) They did join the large protests which were shown on TV, but because of their small numbers were not noticeable.
9) "They" are not a monolith

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #808 on: June 03, 2020, 11:46:27 AM »
Choose your own adventure
Can I choose more than one?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #809 on: June 03, 2020, 11:46:55 AM »
Choose your own adventure

1) Orthodox Jews are still social distancing and didn't want to endanger anyone.
2) Orthodox want to join, but they know that if they do the cops will break up the protests because of the lack of social distancing, so they do the protests a favor by not showing up.
3) They are racists who want police to continue to brutally attack black people.
4) They agree with the protests but can't join because they are mixed gender.
5) While they agree with the underlying premise of Black Lives Matter, they do not agree with the anti-police rhetoric that the protests often espouse, especially considering they are in need of heavy police presence to be protected from anti-Semitic violence themselves.
6) They aren't sure yet if they are pro the protests or not because the meeting didn't happen yet.
7) They did join protests in their respective communities, which had smaller, localized protests which weren't shown on national TV.
8) They did join the large protests which were shown on TV, but because of their small numbers were not noticeable.
9) "They" are not a monolith

10) The media was uninterested in posting any footage of them since it doesn't feed their narrative (on either side)
11) They are scared to join since so many of them have experienced violence which came out of these protests turn anti-semitic very quickly.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #810 on: June 03, 2020, 11:47:27 AM »
Can I choose more than one?

I suspect you already had before you posed the question

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #811 on: June 03, 2020, 11:48:47 AM »
I suspect you already had before you posed the question
Actually I only had one when I posted the question.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #812 on: June 03, 2020, 11:51:53 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should we be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #813 on: June 03, 2020, 11:52:52 AM »
I miss this man. We need unity to make it through this. Sadly our 2020 candidates are not up for the task.

https://twitter.com/TheBushCenter/status/1267933638454321154
Seems like another former president who had 8 yrs to make change, is gonna give us his 2 cents this afternoon
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I’m just hoping he doesn’t make it worse

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #814 on: June 03, 2020, 11:53:04 AM »
you don't think that if they actually work on and make progress on solving these major problems racism will improve tremendously ?

is he so sure all the other people he is servicing were following proper SD guidelines or he just assumes so because they dress like him?

also just wondering what your thoughts are on this ?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #815 on: June 03, 2020, 11:53:58 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #816 on: June 03, 2020, 11:54:08 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?
People are basically animals with brains, when you don’t use your brains your just an animal

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #817 on: June 03, 2020, 11:54:34 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?

No we should not because it is hurtful to animals.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #818 on: June 03, 2020, 11:54:39 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?

lets go back to basics then whats the difference between an animal and a human?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #819 on: June 03, 2020, 11:54:47 AM »
A lot here are using the word "animals" to describe rioters and looters. I have used the same word to describe other criminals.

My question is should be describing other humans no matter how awful we think they are as basically sub-human?

IMHO, no. Though I am sure I have done so, it's not the correct thing to do. The *behavior* can be animalistic, the person is a human being created in G-d's Divine image.