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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #400 on: June 01, 2020, 11:52:09 PM »
Blindness? Since when do we gas peaceful protesters? Rioters I fully understand but that was not the situation here.
If they prevent normal democracy from functioning, sure? Part of normal democracy is allowing officials go wherever they need to. A photo op, even if you disagree with it, or don't like the guy, is still legitimate business, especially when it gives off symbolism that may calm some rioters (in my dreams, I know).

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #401 on: June 01, 2020, 11:52:47 PM »
They were asked to clear the area and they didn’t listen. Three times. Doesn’t matter what they needed the area for.
Ok arrest them then. You don't gas peaceful protesters. What part of this don't you understand?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #402 on: June 01, 2020, 11:54:27 PM »
Ok arrest them then. You don't gas peaceful protesters. What part of this don't you understand?
What does that have to with Trump? You think President Trump ordered the Secret Service to fire tear gas at them?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #403 on: June 01, 2020, 11:55:03 PM »
Ok arrest them then. You don't gas peaceful protesters. What part of this don't you understand?

It’s highly impractical to arrest that many people. Let’s quit the bogus arguments.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #404 on: June 01, 2020, 11:58:08 PM »
If they prevent normal democracy from functioning, sure? Part of normal democracy is allowing officials go wherever they need to. A photo op, even if you disagree with it, or don't like the guy, is still legitimate business, especially when it gives off symbolism that may calm some rioters (in my dreams, I know).
Lets me see if I am following this logic. There is a peaceful sit-in at the capital against the government for doing nothing about anti-Semitism. They are ordered to leave and refuse. It would be ok to use flash bombs or rubber bullets on them (I am sensitive enough not to use the other word)?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #405 on: June 01, 2020, 11:59:33 PM »
Lets me see if I am following this logic. There is a peaceful sit-in at the capital against the government for doing nothing about anti-Semitism. They are ordered to leave and refuse. It would be ok to use flash bombs or rubber bullets on them (I am sensitive enough not to use the other word)?
Why not? You a better way?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #406 on: June 02, 2020, 12:01:02 AM »
Lets me see if I am following this logic. There is a peaceful sit-in at the capital against the government for doing nothing about anti-Semitism. They are ordered to leave and refuse. It would be ok to use flash bombs or rubber bullets on them (I am sensitive enough not to use the other word)?
To make way for a short amount of time?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #407 on: June 02, 2020, 12:01:34 AM »
It’s highly impractical to arrest that many people. Let’s quit the bogus arguments.
Yes please stop the bogus arguments. They had police on horses. They had a large presence. Many things they could have tried.
What if there measures didn't work? You going to use live ammo on peaceful protesters?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #408 on: June 02, 2020, 12:01:49 AM »
But they were there undocumentedly!

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #409 on: June 02, 2020, 12:02:41 AM »
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #410 on: June 02, 2020, 12:03:10 AM »
Just trying to speak your language

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #411 on: June 02, 2020, 12:05:08 AM »
So did CNN tonight. Right after Trumps speech Don Lemon pronounced Trump a dictator, though he seemed to have been pulled off the air right after he said that.
Can't compare the headlines.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #412 on: June 02, 2020, 12:14:23 AM »
Can't compare the headlines.

https://twitter.com/curtishouck/status/1267591241417609226?s=21

This was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard on air, period.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #413 on: June 02, 2020, 12:19:20 AM »
This was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard on air, period.
So FOX saying that the D's want more Americans to die from the virus to make Trump look bad isn't crazier? Or how about tonight when LI says the left wants the riots to continue to make Trump look bad?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #414 on: June 02, 2020, 12:21:36 AM »
So FOX saying that the D's want more Americans to die from the virus to make Trump look bad isn't crazier? Or how about tonight when LI says the left wants the riots to continue to make Trump look bad?
Yes. Crazier then all of that. He’s saying that the president is declaring war on Americans while asserting a dictatorship.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #415 on: June 02, 2020, 12:24:54 AM »
Peaceful protesters have to respect the law, too. If they don't obey the instructions of the police that granted them the permit to assemble then they are not peacefully demonstrating anymore.
I don't know where you are from but in the US of A it works quite the other way around. Peaceful protesters have a RIGHT to assemble and the police need permission granted to disburse a protest.

That being said, the police do have certain parameters that allow for crowd control and to keep public safety. However, I wonder if a presidential photo-OP cuts it.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #416 on: June 02, 2020, 12:28:09 AM »
Yes. Crazier then all of that. He’s saying that the president is declaring war on Americans while asserting a dictatorship.
When he keeps claiming he has powers that the constitution never granted him isn't that him trying to be a dictator?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #417 on: June 02, 2020, 12:29:20 AM »
I don't know where you are from but in the US of A it works quite the other way around. Peaceful protesters have a RIGHT to assemble and the police need permission granted to disburse a protest.

That being said, the police do have certain parameters that allow for crowd control and to keep public safety. However, I wonder if a presidential photo-OP cuts it.

Don't you need a permit?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #418 on: June 02, 2020, 12:31:45 AM »
When he keeps claiming he has powers that the constitution never granted him isn't that him trying to be a dictator?
So you’re referring to the houses of worship thing as the claim that the guy is a dictator?

Because what else has he claimed to do that he doesn’t have the power to do?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #419 on: June 02, 2020, 12:35:37 AM »
So you’re referring to the houses of worship thing as the claim that the guy is a dictator?

Because what else has he claimed to do that he doesn’t have the power to do?
How about sending in the military without the states asking for them?
How about his claim he can force the states to reopen?
How about his claim he has complete authority over everything?
There are many others but ne need to look them up as you get the picture.
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