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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #700 on: June 02, 2020, 10:25:44 PM »
You think this is true? There is no inherent injustice in our system.
If you don't know or understand the problem how are you going to solve it?

i think what you perceive as injustice is unfortunately caused by the very same people claiming injustice
people are made up of there actions so although its very nice to think a certain way its your actions that will ultimately defy you

they themselves are the ones that need to understand the problem in order for there to be any real progress
you can have a million other people from a million other community's show solidarity and support but it wont change anyone
which brings home her point of that the real problem is there own community's unfortunately

 


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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #701 on: June 02, 2020, 10:28:31 PM »
You think this is true? There is no inherent injustice in our system.
If you don't know or understand the problem how are you going to solve it?
Its easy to just talk about injustice and white privilege. I’m familiar with the higher education system where faculty and often students are coerced to “confess their guilt” and come to terms with the travesty of their white privilege and how everything is their fault. But that is a false narrative.

It’s a long discussion but liberal policies have severely harmed the African American community in encouraging the breakdown of the family unit, in education, by  disincentivising self sufficiency, by negativly impacting upward mobility and opportunity and a multitude of other areas. There certainly is injustice and bias in the system but that is far from the whole story. To blame it all on white privilege is to ignore the elephant in the room. Relative to several decades ago, liberal policies, especially in dense urban majority African American cities (Newark, Camden, Detroit, etc.) are an increasing component of the disparity impacting that community.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #702 on: June 02, 2020, 10:31:33 PM »
The bad news: I heard almost all of the 700 people arrested in nyc last night were released
The good news: Mets ticket sales are at an all time high

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #703 on: June 02, 2020, 10:36:55 PM »
i think what you perceive as injustice is unfortunately caused by the very same people claiming injustice
people are made up of there actions so although its very nice to think a certain way its your actions that will ultimately defy you

they themselves are the ones that need to understand the problem in order for there to be any real progress
you can have a million other people from a million other community's show solidarity and support but it wont change anyone
which brings home her point of that the real problem is there own community's unfortunately
So racism is caused by blacks? Anti-Semitism is caused by Jews? I hope I am understanding you wrong?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #704 on: June 02, 2020, 10:37:24 PM »
i think what you perceive as injustice is unfortunately caused by the very same people claiming injustice
people are made up of there actions so although its very nice to think a certain way its your actions that will ultimately defy you

they themselves are the ones that need to understand the problem in order for there to be any real progress
you can have a million other people from a million other community's show solidarity and support but it wont change anyone
which brings home her point of that the real problem is there own community's unfortunately

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #705 on: June 02, 2020, 10:42:02 PM »
Its easy to just talk about injustice and white privilege. I’m familiar with the higher education system where faculty and often students are coerced to “confess their guilt” and come to terms with the travesty of their white privilege and how everything is their fault. But that is a false narrative.

It’s a long discussion but liberal policies have severely harmed the African American community in encouraging the breakdown of the family unit, in education, by  disincentivising self sufficiency, by negativly impacting upward mobility and opportunity and a multitude of other areas. There certainly is injustice and bias in the system but that is far from the whole story. To blame it all on white privilege is to ignore the elephant in the room. Relative to several decades ago, liberal policies, especially in dense urban majority African American cities (Newark, Camden, Detroit, etc.) are an increasing component of the disparity impacting that community.
My point was if she feels there is no inherent injustice in our system she has a lot to learn. You raised many other issues but ignored my question. Not sure why you quoted me.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #706 on: June 02, 2020, 10:46:04 PM »
So racism is caused by blacks? Anti-Semitism is caused by Jews? I hope I am understanding you wrong?

if i commit a crime then why should my race, religion, skin color or anything else make a difference ?





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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #707 on: June 02, 2020, 10:47:50 PM »
if i commit a crime then why should my race, religion, skin color or anything else make a difference ?
It should not. Now can you answer my question so I can understand your position?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #708 on: June 02, 2020, 10:48:07 PM »
Whoever is interested in  watching, NYC tonight on manhattan bridge > most likely 200 will be under arrest sooner then later.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #709 on: June 02, 2020, 10:48:54 PM »
if i commit a crime then why should my race, religion, skin color or anything else make a difference ?
I think he's making the "but officer he was speeding too" argument, that blacks get prosecuted more than whites for the same crime.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #710 on: June 02, 2020, 10:49:23 PM »
So racism is caused by blacks? Anti-Semitism is caused by Jews? I hope I am understanding you wrong?

it caused by people assuming that's how everyone from that sect of people act which usually just takes a little investigating to see how true or untrue that it actually is

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #711 on: June 02, 2020, 10:49:37 PM »
Whoever is interested in  watching, NYC tonight on manhattan bridge > most likely 200 will be under arrest sooner then later.

Live Cams -  https://nyctmc.org/  - https://nyctmc.org/google_popup.php?cid=806
On the bridge - https://twitter.com/S_Evangelina
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #712 on: June 02, 2020, 10:52:50 PM »
I will just ask. You feel the girl stealing/looting the clothes should be shot?
Deserves to be? Yes. Should be? Only by the store owner. By anyone else it would incite more violence.

If every store owner got up, the same night, and shot all looters, this phenomenon would stop instantly.

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #713 on: June 02, 2020, 10:56:45 PM »
it caused by people assuming that's how everyone from that sect of people act which usually just takes a little investigating to see how true or untrue that it actually is
So someone says blacks are stupid based on graduation rates. Is that racism?
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #714 on: June 02, 2020, 10:58:05 PM »
Deserves to be? Yes. Should be? Only by the store owner. By anyone else it would incite more violence.
Your position on this is now clear.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #715 on: June 02, 2020, 11:00:23 PM »
Yes I am obsessed to speak up for the peaceful protesters.

Did you also speak up for the peaceful anti-lockdown protesters?

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #716 on: June 02, 2020, 11:01:38 PM »
Where are all the white nationalist in all this? Are they hunkered down? I haven’t seen much about them in the news

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #717 on: June 02, 2020, 11:02:49 PM »
So someone says blacks are stupid based on graduation rates. Is that racism?
I would say it's stupidity, not necessarily racism. (although anybody who says that is most likely a racist.)

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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #718 on: June 02, 2020, 11:04:50 PM »
Did you also speak up for the peaceful anti-lockdown protesters?
I am not going to speak up for something that I feel would endanger lives but will for their right to protest peacefully and not get attacked for it.
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Re: Violent protests erupt across the country
« Reply #719 on: June 02, 2020, 11:05:59 PM »
Where are all the white nationalist in all this? Are they hunkered down? I haven’t seen much about them in the news
Some of them are actually out there instigating looting.
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