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With respect to other vaccines and a potential COVID-19 vaccine what will you do.

I got MMR vaccine and plan to get COVID-19 vaccine when available.
I did not get MMR vaccine but plan to get COVID-19 vaccine when available.
I got MMR vaccine but do not plan to get COVID-19 vaccine.
I did not get MMR vaccine and do not plan to get COVID-19 vaccine.
I still think vaccines cause autism or other serious side effects.
My parent(s) still think vaccines cause autism or other serious side effects. I had to secretly get vaccinated.

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2020, 02:08:59 PM »
Not that I know of, but both Pfizer & Moderna are only releasing press releases about their studies as opposed to the typical study data scientists are asking for. I'm not sure what you mean, but I never implied my opinion is influenced by Cuomo. I stand by the statement that Cuomo and I share an opinion on potential corner cutting, and I think Cuomo's public stance is helping ensure proper procedure.
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2020, 02:12:01 PM »
I'll probably hold off on getting vaccinated for a little while because of that.
Even if it means not traveling ?

If anyone thinks that Cuomo is about safety I’ve got a bridge to sell. This is all about politics. If it was a Democratic administration he’d be promising that NY’ers would be the first to obtain it.

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2020, 02:53:33 PM »
If anyone thinks that Cuomo is about safety I’ve got a bridge to sell. This is all about politics. If it was a Democratic administration he’d be promising that NY’ers would be the first to obtain it.

Its beyond political. His statement (regarding vaccine distribution) that CVS and Walgreens (and other national pharmacy chains) are mainly only in rich neighborhoods and there are none in poor minority areas is disgraceful at best.

I know plenty of minority neighborhoods that are far from rich that have both (and/or other national chain pharmacies). What a false, shameful (and disgusting) statement to make just to get into the headlines.

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2020, 03:56:34 PM »
If it was a Democratic administration he’d be promising that NY’ers would be the first to obtain it.
Is that what he is saying now?
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2020, 03:57:43 PM »
Its beyond political. His statement (regarding vaccine distribution) that CVS and Walgreens (and other national pharmacy chains) are mainly only in rich neighborhoods and there are none in poor minority areas is disgraceful at best.

I know plenty of minority neighborhoods that are far from rich that have both (and/or other national chain pharmacies). What a false, shameful (and disgusting) statement to make just to get into the headlines.
Source?  :P
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2020, 04:02:13 PM »
Its beyond political. His statement (regarding vaccine distribution) that CVS and Walgreens (and other national pharmacy chains) are mainly only in rich neighborhoods and there are none in poor minority areas is disgraceful at best.

I know plenty of minority neighborhoods that are far from rich that have both (and/or other national chain pharmacies). What a false, shameful (and disgusting) statement to make just to get into the headlines.
IME it's the exact opposite.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2020, 05:38:47 PM »
Is that what he is saying now?

He will as soon as Biden is in. He keeps talking about the 2 long "difficult" months until we get the right administration in  ::)

Source?  :P

For what? That he said that? Last paragraph here:

https://hamodia.com/2020/11/15/nyc-public-schools-will-open-monday-covid-positivity-rate-stays-threshold/

Or that those pharmacies are in non-rich neighborhoods too? For this GIYF. They're all over the place.

IME it's the exact opposite.

I think so too but I wasn't going to claim that and then be asked for data. Anecdotally I've seen them in majority of poor minority neighborhoods so Cuomo's claim is just crap.

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2020, 05:44:17 PM »
For this GIYF. They're all over the place.
Have to remember that the next time a source is asked for.  :)
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2020, 05:57:52 PM »
Have to remember that the next time a source is asked for.  :)

Seriously? You need me to put in a list of Walgreens and CVS pharmacies?  Here you go:

https://www.cvs.com/store-locator/store-locator-landing.jsp?_requestid=415196

https://www.walgreens.com/storelocator/find.jsp

Put in zip 11230 if it doesn't load with that. Practically every result is absolutely not a rich neighborhood at all.

ETA: That doesn't mean there are no rich people living in any of them but these pharmacies serve plenty of average or poor minority groups contrary to Cuomo's false claims.
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2020, 07:09:20 PM »
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2020, 12:59:59 AM »
It is interesting to learn about the public opinion on this issue.

I propose a recount (redo the poll) now that the leading vaccines to be available in the US are likely to be based on MRNA technology.

The public's concern about rushing development seems to have been alleviated, perhaps in part by the FDA adding stringency of 60 days surveillance to provide approval, and with the election (mostly) out of the way.  The use of MRNA technology now seems to be primary source of concern (presumably in part due to a lack of understanding of microbiology).

One irony is the deep concerns around undetected long-term vaccine side-effects among those who were relatively dismissive about such risks as it relates to getting COVID-19 (which, as I understand it effectively produces the same RNA in these vaccines). Maybe a poll on whether you think there is greater risk of long-term side-effects in contracting COVID-19 vs. taking the RNMA vaccine.

Interestingly anti-vaccination opinions are positively correlated with republican political leaning and lower education levels (even pre-covid).

Some interesting statistics on anti-vaccination and correlation with political affiliation (even pre-covid) . . . from Gallup
•   https://news.gallup.com/vault/319976/gallup-vault-new-vaccines-not-wildly-popular.aspx
•   https://news.gallup.com/poll/276929/fewer-continue-vaccines-important.aspx

P.s. Obviously the risk reward trade-off varies across the population. e.g. reports say 39% of COVID deaths occurred in long-term care facilities, even as that population represents only 1% of the overall population, so I would guess that's a population with a relatively favorable risk/reward trade-off, by all measures. 


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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2020, 01:15:59 AM »
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2020, 06:18:42 AM »
If you managed not to get covid untill now and weren't extreme about being careful, why would you take a vaccine out of your own volition?
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2020, 12:06:36 PM »
If you managed not to get covid untill now and weren't extreme about being careful, why would you take a vaccine out of your own volition?
Because they wouldn't want to get Covid?

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2020, 12:12:37 PM »
Because they wouldn't want to get Covid?
Ur saying they were lucky, I'm saying they might be lucky but more likely have some form of immunity.
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2020, 12:39:10 PM »
Ur saying they were lucky, I'm saying they might be lucky but more likely have some form of immunity.

That argument would carry more weight if almost everyone else in the country got COVID.

But statistics show only about 13 million individuals got COVID out of 300+ million people in the US (about 4%). Even if that is understated by a factor of 10x, that does not support an assumption of natural immunity.   

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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2020, 12:43:33 PM »
That argument would carry more weight if almost everyone else in the country got COVID.

But statistics show only about 13 million individuals got COVID out of 300+ million people in the US (about 4%). Even if that is understated by a factor of 10x, that does not support an assumption of natural immunity.
To make this more practical than theoretical, I'm speaking about myself. I was around people that I later found out had covid in its early stages. This happened a few times. Was also in close contact with someone on the tail end of his covid. I was in very non socially distanced environments. I think I might have had it asymptomatically or have some immunity. Or, also possible, am very lucky. I don't see a upside to me being a Guinea pig for this vaccine which is what whoever run first to take it are.
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2020, 01:09:19 PM »
To make this more practical than theoretical, I'm speaking about myself. I was around people that I later found out had covid in its early stages. This happened a few times. Was also in close contact with someone on the tail end of his covid. I was in very non socially distanced environments. I think I might have had it asymptomatically or have some immunity. Or, also possible, am very lucky. I don't see a upside to me being a Guinea pig for this vaccine which is what whoever run first to take it are.

The most contagious point seems to be a relatively short period. There were very many people who made this same calculation of having been "very exposed" including to a spouse and made the same assumption you are making only to have caught it later on.
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Re: If there is COVID-19 vaccine will you get it.
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2020, 01:13:06 PM »
The most contagious point seems to be a relatively short period. There were very many people who made this same calculation of having been "very exposed" including to a spouse and made the same assumption you are making only to have caught it later on.
Your saying good
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