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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2140 on: April 06, 2021, 10:12:13 AM »
HT Benny Gantz. Real leadership.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2141 on: April 06, 2021, 03:59:13 PM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2142 on: April 07, 2021, 03:16:54 PM »
I would think its hard to get people to buy into a plan where there isnt even a way to measure effectiveness. How will they determine when to re-inoculate? It makes the road map even more hazy.
Effectiveness is best measured by disease prevalence (the ultimate outcome) and not seropositivity.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2143 on: April 07, 2021, 06:20:43 PM »
Effectiveness is best measured by disease prevalence (the ultimate outcome) and not seropositivity.
Real world effectivness yes. Here it's effectiveness towards government standards... Antibodies is the only measure they have used untill now and these things dont change in a day. Or they do. That doesn't help though. Everyone is scared they won't or they will in the wrong direction. Even is Israel, this level of government involvement in everyones everyday life is unprecedented.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2144 on: April 08, 2021, 07:16:48 AM »
Positivity rate drops to just 0.5%-*

- New cases: 296
- Positivity rate: 0.5% (-0.5)
- In hospital: 453 (-33)
- In ICU: 172 (-18)
- New deaths: 9

Population vaccinated:
- 1st dose: 56.92% (+0.11)
- 2nd dose: 52.60% (+0.22)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2145 on: April 12, 2021, 03:38:24 PM »
How low can we go?
138 cases yesterday, .4% positivity rate
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2146 on: April 12, 2021, 03:38:54 PM »
How low can we go?
138 cases yesterday, .4% positivity rate
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2147 on: April 12, 2021, 03:57:18 PM »
How low can we go?

The floor is a handful of cases that are flying in every day.

At that point, attention will probably focus on the airport again, though there's no probably no political capital to impose restrictions there.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2148 on: April 12, 2021, 05:40:44 PM »
The floor is a handful of cases that are flying in every day.

At that point, attention will probably focus on the airport again, though there's no probably no political capital to impose restrictions there.

Crazy to think that so many are getting in despite the testing requirements. Any chance they’ll include statistics on how many of those testing positive arrived recently from abroad?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2149 on: April 12, 2021, 06:06:24 PM »
The floor is a handful of cases that are flying in every day.

At that point, attention will probably focus on the airport again, though there's no probably no political capital to impose restrictions there.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2150 on: April 13, 2021, 03:15:45 AM »
Another big drop in cases in Israel yesterday. 217 cases, vs 379 a week before on Monday.

R at 0.72.

58k tests, so quite a bit there.

0.37% positive rate. And dropping.

0.27% positive so far today.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2151 on: April 13, 2021, 03:16:43 AM »
And whatever few cases there are, are in Bedouin towns that refuse to vaccinate. Nonexistent elsewhere.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2152 on: April 13, 2021, 07:03:46 AM »
R at 0.72.

Doesn’t that reflect a rise in R?


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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2153 on: April 13, 2021, 08:05:18 AM »
Doesn’t that reflect a rise in R?


It does. It means that it's only plummeting now, not nosediving.
And from a much lower baseline.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2154 on: April 13, 2021, 08:09:33 AM »
It does. It means that it's only plummeting now, not nosediving.
And from a much lower baseline.
Yup.
Plus I don't get how they calculate the R at all, they are calculation based on 10 day incubation period, so 10 days from 4/11 is 4/2
4/11 had 217 new cases, 231 rolling average
4/1 had 417 new cases, 358 rolling average
How does .78 R make sense with any of those numbers
Also, when at least a percentage of the new cases are new imports - it's not reflective of R at all.
Basically, I think at this low rate of transmission with cases coming from the outside, R is not really meaningful
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2155 on: April 13, 2021, 08:55:13 AM »
Yup.
Plus I don't get how they calculate the R at all, they are calculation based on 10 day incubation period, so 10 days from 4/11 is 4/2
4/11 had 217 new cases, 231 rolling average
4/1 had 417 new cases, 358 rolling average
How does .78 R make sense with any of those numbers
Also, when at least a percentage of the new cases are new imports - it's not reflective of R at all.
Basically, I think at this low rate of transmission with cases coming from the outside, R is not really meaningful

The R measurements are notoriously flawed but not fabricated, they use this complex formula to estimate distribution of spread throughout the infectious period.

They actually address your point about imported cases, but at the time community spread was high so imported cases were insignificant and countered by positive cases leaving - which isn't true now that prevalence in Israel is lower than the countries from which people are flying in.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2156 on: April 13, 2021, 09:37:39 AM »
The R measurements are notoriously flawed but not fabricated, they use this complex formula to estimate distribution of spread throughout the infectious period.

They actually address your point about imported cases, but at the time community spread was high so imported cases were insignificant and countered by positive cases leaving - which isn't true now that prevalence in Israel is lower than the countries from which people are flying in.

I didn’t realize R was such an in exact science...

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2157 on: April 13, 2021, 11:14:17 AM »
Any recent information on antibody testing sites that provide same-day results. In February people were reporting that shahmir medical center was providing results the same day.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2158 on: April 13, 2021, 11:15:15 AM »
The R measurements are notoriously flawed but not fabricated, they use this complex formula to estimate distribution of spread throughout the infectious period.

They actually address your point about imported cases, but at the time community spread was high so imported cases were insignificant and countered by positive cases leaving - which isn't true now that prevalence in Israel is lower than the countries from which people are flying in.


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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2159 on: April 13, 2021, 02:18:26 PM »
https://m.ynet.co.il/articles/59131540

Slowly coming to their senses.

As of next week no more outdoor mask requirement. Where will Israelis let out their anger/hate/etc?
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