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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2380 on: July 12, 2021, 11:22:27 PM »
You're theorizing that the initial 2 shots are too close together? If you're right, Canada is going to come out of this looking like geniuses.
More than theorizing, I believe there was some solid data to back up, maybe out of the UK where they waited at least 12 weeks.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2381 on: July 13, 2021, 03:16:28 AM »
לראשונה מפרוץ גל התחלואה הנוכחי: משרד הבריאות עדכן הבוקר (שלישי) כי יותר מ-700 מאומתים אובחנו אתמול בישראל. בנוסף, מספר החולים קשה עומד על 46 בני אדם  מהם עשרה מונשמים, ומספר הנפטרים הוא 6,439.

1.3% positive.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2382 on: July 13, 2021, 09:03:56 AM »
Yes, that's an important point, and they're aware of that.  They do mention somewhere that they know that these numbers underestimate the true infection rate, and that may be why they stopped recording infections and concentrated on the more accurate measurements of hospitalizations and deaths.  Many of these were not actually hospitalized FOR covid, but for something else, and they got tested in hospital, so this did catch some asymptomatic infections. 

This is what leads me to believe that
in theory, it may be more to try to lessen the severity of a potential infection, rather than to prevent it completely.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2383 on: July 13, 2021, 09:19:39 AM »
לראשונה מפרוץ גל התחלואה הנוכחי: משרד הבריאות עדכן הבוקר (שלישי) כי יותר מ-700 מאומתים אובחנו אתמול בישראל. בנוסף, מספר החולים קשה עומד על 46 בני אדם  מהם עשרה מונשמים, ומספר הנפטרים הוא 6,439.

1.3% positive.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2384 on: July 13, 2021, 10:06:43 AM »
לראשונה מפרוץ גל התחלואה הנוכחי: משרד הבריאות עדכן הבוקר (שלישי) כי יותר מ-700 מאומתים אובחנו אתמול בישראל. בנוסף, מספר החולים קשה עומד על 46 בני אדם  מהם עשרה מונשמים, ומספר הנפטרים הוא 6,439.

1.3% positive.
Breakdown of how many previously had COVID and/or had the vaccine?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2385 on: July 13, 2021, 10:25:29 AM »
Most amazing is that the Charedi and Arab cases are close to nil.
The outbreak was started and spread by unvaccinated teenagers. I think the vast vast majority of charedi teens were infected in the numerous prior waves.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2386 on: July 13, 2021, 10:32:36 AM »
Breakdown of how many previously had COVID and/or had the vaccine?
https://13news.co.il/item/news/domestic/health/corona-1281907/
Interesting that this states out of 7,700 positives for COVID in the current wave: only 72 already had COVID and have recovered vs around 3,000 that are fully vaccinated.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2387 on: July 13, 2021, 10:34:28 AM »
What about among the hospitalized?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2388 on: July 13, 2021, 10:35:51 AM »
Most amazing is that the Charedi and Arab cases are close to nil.
The outbreak was started and spread by unvaccinated teenagers. I think the vast vast majority of charedi teens were infected in the numerous prior waves.
That is exactly what has been going on in the US also for the past year, no?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2389 on: July 13, 2021, 10:57:00 AM »
That is exactly what has been going on in the US also for the past year, no?
Delta's been around for a year?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2390 on: July 13, 2021, 11:35:17 AM »
That is exactly what has been going on in the US also for the past year, no?

Right and therefore didn't have more than a few ripples.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2391 on: July 13, 2021, 01:11:05 PM »
Right and therefore didn't have more than a few ripples.
revisionist history.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2392 on: July 13, 2021, 01:14:38 PM »
496 cases today in Israel so far with two more updates to go...
1.42% positive. Going up.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2393 on: July 13, 2021, 01:14:56 PM »
revisionist history.

Not revisionist, because I've been saying this all along.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2394 on: July 13, 2021, 01:15:41 PM »
Not revisionist, because I've been saying this all along.
fine so denial. Same false statement.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2395 on: July 13, 2021, 02:30:11 PM »
Any reason why Israel isn't first testing people for antibodies before determining whether to give a third shot
(I understand lack of antibodies doesn't indicate waning immunity, but presence of antibodies should indicate continued immunity, shouldn't it?)
More efficient to identify the class of people with waning immunity, and vax them all, rather than testing them one by one.

https://fortune.com/2021/07/13/israel-booster-shots-not-for-everyone-covid-cases/
"On Monday Israel said it would begin offering a third vaccine dose to patients with weakened immune systems....
For now, Israelis who have undergone heart, lung, kidney or liver transplants and cancer patients receiving chemotherapy are among those eligible for a third dose."

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2396 on: July 13, 2021, 02:35:10 PM »
Delta's been around for a year?
I'm not talking about the details; I'm referring to Covid in general.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2397 on: July 13, 2021, 02:53:01 PM »
I'm not talking about the details; I'm referring to Covid in general.
There's a significant concern that Delta is different than the other previous strains and will affect even those who have antibodies. The fact that the Arab and Chareidi communities seem unaffected (as of now) would be reassuring.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2398 on: July 13, 2021, 05:47:40 PM »
There's a significant concern that Delta is different than the other previous strains and will affect even those who have antibodies. The fact that the Arab and Chareidi communities seem unaffected (as of now) would be reassuring.
I saw a report that people who were infected appear to be more protected against Delta than the vaccinated in Israel
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2399 on: July 13, 2021, 05:49:59 PM »
There's a significant concern that Delta is different than the other previous strains and will affect even those who have antibodies. The fact that the Arab and Chareidi communities seem unaffected (as of now) would be reassuring.
Indeed.