The current state of COVID-19 in Israel

[Moshe123]

2,112 new cases in Israel yesterday.
Serious cases shot up to 138.
2.3% positive on 95k tests.

[Moshe123]

https://twitter.com/yuvharpaz/status/1419995200265543681?s=19

[tavster]

I'm reading that Israel has approved the use of the vaccine for high risks kids aged 5-11

[AsherO]

I'm reading that Israel has approved the use of the vaccine for high risks kids aged 5-11

Based on what data?

[tavster]

Based on what data?

[AsherO]

Thanks, I meant clinical/trial data. I know Pfizer is doing trials in the US, not aware of any published data.

[LongTimeLurker]

Thanks, I meant clinical/trial data. I know Pfizer is doing trials in the US, not aware of any published data.

They have been doing this for a while on a per child basis and I believe have now created a protocol that does not require individual approval by committee.

[Euclid]

I'm reading that Israel has approved the use of the vaccine for high risks kids aged 5-11

I know some high risk kids under 12 in the US who have been vaccinated.

[tavster]

I know some high risk kids under 12 in the US who have been vaccinated.

Thanks, i wasn't aware

[Moshe123]

Thread.

https://twitter.com/AArgoetti/status/1420057245971361802?s=19

[Lurker]

Thread.

In English:

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1420059122725183491

[tavster]

[yelped]

Why would a booster shot for seniors slow the spread if most spread is not occuring in seniors? If they are trying to prevent severe illness, I understand the potential benefits of the third dose, but how does that help for spread which is occuring in young, unvaccinated people?

At this point, if the vaccine helps to greatly reduce spread and severe illness which so far the data coming out of Israel seems to indicate, then the fact that it is not currently effective against getting slightly sick doesn't really matter, because when you have enough people who are vaccinated, spread will slow, and in the meantime severe illness is prevented in vulnerable populations (or anyone who took the vaccine), so there is no reason to go ballistic and lock down again. Just keep on vaccinating and eventually it will die out.

Am I missing something?

[PlatinumGuy]

Why would a booster shot for seniors slow the spread if most spread is not occuring in seniors? If they are trying to prevent severe illness, I understand the potential benefits of the third dose, but how does that help for spread which is occuring in young, unvaccinated people?

At this point, if the vaccine helps to greatly reduce spread and severe illness which so far the data coming out of Israel seems to indicate, then the fact that it is not currently effective against getting slightly sick doesn't really matter, because when you have enough people who are vaccinated, spread will slow, and in the meantime severe illness is prevented in vulnerable populations (or anyone who took the vaccine), so there is no reason to go ballistic and lock down again. Just keep on vaccinating and eventually it will die out.

Am I missing something?

I think contract tracing is showing more transmissions amongst vaccinated 65+ compared to younger vaccinated people, and with a distinct gradient correlating to time elapsed since vaccination.

[Lurker]

At this point, if the vaccine helps to greatly reduce spread and severe illness which so far the data coming out of Israel seems to indicate, then the fact that it is not currently effective against getting slightly sick doesn't really matter, because when you have enough people who are vaccinated, spread will slow, and in the meantime severe illness is prevented in vulnerable populations (or anyone who took the vaccine), so there is no reason to go ballistic and lock down again. Just keep on vaccinating and eventually it will die out.

+1

I'm very curious to see how they handle high numbers of positive cases with relatively low numbers of severe cases and deaths. I'd be surprised if they locked down in such a scenario.

[PlatinumGuy]

+1

I'm very curious to see how they handle high numbers of positive cases with relatively low numbers of severe cases and deaths. I'd be surprised if they locked down in such a scenario.

The UK didn't, and numbers started receding significantly this week. The US & Israel are trailing the UK trajectory by ~33 days so there is hope.

[yelped]

I think contract tracing is showing more transmissions amongst vaccinated 65+ compared to younger vaccinated people, and with a distinct gradient correlating to time passed since vaccination.

Got it, so they are seeing decreased antibodies count correlating with increased spread?

[PlatinumGuy]

Got it, so they are seeing decreased antibodies count correlating with increased spread?

That is my understanding

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1420399984789368842

[B.D.Da'ehu]

https://twitter.com/newsisrael13/status/1420467311241224194?