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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #525 on: November 18, 2020, 10:07:58 AM »
Anyone know if the GRA shul in Shaarei Chessed allows for people to attend without reservations?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #526 on: November 22, 2020, 08:31:59 AM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #527 on: November 22, 2020, 10:01:16 AM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #528 on: November 24, 2020, 08:46:47 AM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #529 on: November 24, 2020, 09:05:06 AM »

Embarrassed to say that I have no idea what the word איכוני means, and I consider myself a fluent Hebrew speaker.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #530 on: November 24, 2020, 09:09:02 AM »
Embarrassed to say that I have no idea what the word איכוני means, and I consider myself a fluent Hebrew speaker.

And you didn't figure it out from context. As far as I understand it means Synching (but in this context triangulation is probably more accurate). Google search revealed that pinpointing is probably the a more accurate translation. Though there can be several similarly accurate translations depending on context:

https://glosbe.com/he/en/%D7%90%D7%99%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%9F
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #531 on: November 24, 2020, 09:10:57 AM »
And you didn't figure it out from context. As far as I understand it means Synching (but in this context triangulation is probably more accurate).

From the context I thought it meant algorithm. How would triangulation identify someone as exposed from a phone call?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #532 on: November 24, 2020, 09:13:19 AM »
This is why when covid was prevalent in RBS I was using a Google FI SIM. Their tracking was clearly terrible. I once got a message to go to bidud for a time when I was home.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #533 on: November 24, 2020, 09:14:52 AM »
From the context I thought it meant algorithm. How would triangulation identify someone as exposed from a phone call?

Well, the point of the tweet was that it was a bug, not a feature. Triangulation is used to locate where a specific cell phone was connected to the network, and supposedly that's where the user was. Somehow a bug got into the system to link people that were contacted by a cell phone of someone who was confirmed, to "place" them in close proximity to the confirmed person.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #534 on: November 24, 2020, 09:29:11 AM »
Well, the point of the tweet was that it was a bug, not a feature. Triangulation is used to locate where a specific cell phone was connected to the network, and supposedly that's where the user was. Somehow a bug got into the system to link people that were contacted by a cell phone of someone who was confirmed, to "place" them in close proximity to the confirmed person.

Triangulation is done by analyzing cell proximity to multiple towers to determine location. If youre considering data of the other party on the line you arent triangulating at all.

In any case, it was clear that something was amiss with how they were locating the person on the call. What still isnt clear to me from the context is what איכוני actually means. Synching (syncing?), triangulation, algorithm, or something else.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #535 on: November 24, 2020, 09:31:56 AM »
https://glosbe.com/he/en/%D7%90%D7%99%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%9F

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היצרנים לא הכניסו את טכנולוגיית הפאזה הנושאת הזו לשבבי האיכון הזולים שלהם כי לא ברור להם מה יעשה הציבור הרחב עם איכון עולמי כה מדויק, עד שבכוחו להתביית על הקמטים שבכף-ידכם.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #536 on: November 24, 2020, 09:57:50 AM »
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Health Ministry: Vaccine will soon be here but only 21% ready for it
A senior Health Ministry official expressed optimism about the arrival of coronavirus vaccine to Israel in the coming weeks.

However, the same official revealed that according to a recent poll only 21% of the population are ready to be inoculated with the first batch of vaccine that arrives in Israel due to concerns about possible side effects.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/523723

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #537 on: November 24, 2020, 12:33:08 PM »
Triangulation is done by analyzing cell proximity to multiple towers to determine location. If youre considering data of the other party on the line you arent triangulating at all.

In any case, it was clear that something was amiss with how they were locating the person on the call. What still isnt clear to me from the context is what איכוני actually means. Synching (syncing?), triangulation, algorithm, or something else.
Part of the reason the Shin Bet did not want this responsibility was because they were concerned it will cause their methods & capabilities to be leaked. It may involve big data from all mics and AI creating links between people.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #538 on: November 24, 2020, 01:18:09 PM »
In any case, it was clear that something was amiss with how they were locating the person on the call. What still isnt clear to me from the context is what איכוני actually means. Synching (syncing?), triangulation, algorithm, or something else.

It definitely means determining the location.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #539 on: November 24, 2020, 10:47:55 PM »
It definitely means determining the location.

I realize that now. איכון from the word איכן. I was probably speaking Hebrew before איכון was a word 😂
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