Author Topic: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel  (Read 4979 times)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2020, 12:49:01 AM »
I don’t know about you, but to me, it’s always wow when yeshivos close

Don't know what's so surprising. The opposite of open is shut. See virus, shut down world. Dem's da rules, right?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2020, 01:47:25 AM »
Beitar Illit to be closed down.  :'(

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2020, 06:11:40 AM »
Record 1,443 new cases today. Hospitalizations and in serious condition shooting up.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2020, 07:33:23 AM »
Record 1,443 new cases today. Hospitalizations and in serious condition shooting up.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2020, 09:04:51 AM »
Take this as you like.

The Times of Israel reports a hospital director said most COVID-19 patients who died at his institution had approximately a year’s life expectancy.

“Coronavirus was the thing that tipped them over, but to be honest, for most of these patients who died here in Shaare Zedek, the chance is they had a year of life expectancy, not much more,” said Ofer Merin.

Around 1 in 10 Israelis who died from coronavirus succumbed at Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem, where Merin is Director. He told Times of Israel that almost all the institution’s fatalities were both elderly and had other diseases.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2020, 09:13:12 AM »
Take this as you like.

The Times of Israel reports a hospital director said most COVID-19 patients who died at his institution had approximately a year’s life expectancy.

“Coronavirus was the thing that tipped them over, but to be honest, for most of these patients who died here in Shaare Zedek, the chance is they had a year of life expectancy, not much more,” said Ofer Merin.

Around 1 in 10 Israelis who died from coronavirus succumbed at Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem, where Merin is Director. He told Times of Israel that almost all the institution’s fatalities were both elderly and had other diseases.
What exactly are you trying to prove? A week or two ago you were saying how the number of new patients in serious condition hasn't gone up and so we shouldn't be too concerned about rising positives.


Now the numbers are catching up and the number of those in serious condition is unfortunately rising quickly.


Now this is your new narrative of the week?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2020, 10:02:41 AM »
Compared to US and India Israel is far better in Covid cases and recovering rate.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #82 on: July 08, 2020, 10:35:52 AM »
Record 1,443 new cases today. Hospitalizations and in serious condition shooting up.

Israeli hospitals can handle up to 600-900 patients in serious condition before a total collapse.

MoH is expecting 300 just from deterioration of existing infections.

There is going to be a total lockdown sooner rather than later. 

It's true that the average Covid fatality in Israel is 80 and life expectancy is 82 so the impact thus far is minimal, but that is irrelevant to the caution needed and in Halacha the entire Torah is נדחה to prolong a Jewish life by a minute. And yes, 10,000 shuls should close for that one Jews minute. There is no Halacha to the contrary.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2020, 10:38:12 AM »
And yes, 10,000 shuls should close for that one Jews minute. There is no Halacha to the contrary.

Was there never a chance someone could catch something in shul that would end their life early R”L before Covid can’t around?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2020, 10:45:09 AM »
Was there never a chance someone could catch something in shul that would end their life early R”L before Covid can’t around?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2020, 11:46:50 AM »
Was there never a chance someone could catch something in shul that would end their life early R”L before Covid can’t around?
No. At least not greater than wherever they were if they avoided Shul. The entire concept of transmittable diseases & sterilization was only discovered 150-200 years ago.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2020, 12:45:42 PM »
It's true that the average Covid fatality in Israel is 80 and life expectancy is 82 so the impact thus far is minimal
Just want to point out a flaw in your math- while average life expectancy *at birth* is currently 82, *at age 80* your life expectancy is going to be another 10+ years
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2020, 01:09:12 PM »
Just want to point out a flaw in your math- while average life expectancy *at birth* is currently 82, *at age 80* your life expectancy is going to be another 10+ years

Not exactly, but close. Male non-smoker (i.e. no rateable conditions) looks like it's just under 10 years.


While female non-smokers are have a life expectancy of almost 12 years at that age.


It is very possible that those dying from COVID-19 have underlying conditions that would make their life expectancy shorter. (Disclaimer: Above is based on US mortality tables).
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2020, 01:46:32 PM »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283240
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2020, 02:02:03 PM »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283240
Lockdown of nine cities being decided
Supposedly in Jlem it's only 3 neighborhoods
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