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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #720 on: December 29, 2020, 12:47:17 PM »
Will they get Moderna vaccine by then?
I saw a report that Moderna won't come until March, hopefully Pfizer will allocate more for Israel, it's not like other countries are working too hard to use their existing stock.


What's the צריך לעשות בדיקה מיידית? Will they offer PCR in the airport?
Yes they have been offering that already.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #721 on: December 29, 2020, 01:40:53 PM »
Has anyone on maccabbi gotten the vaccine at teddy stadium in jerusalem.  Is it only drive in?
Is it fast or a long wait with appointment?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #722 on: December 29, 2020, 02:48:31 PM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #725 on: December 29, 2020, 03:51:21 PM »
4x the ratio of non Religious Israeli Jews.
בושה תכסה ארץ
What’s the birth rate multiple?
What’s the housing density multiple?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #726 on: December 29, 2020, 03:53:10 PM »
What’s the birth rate multiple?

Why is that related? More young people = higher risk for the old people?
What’s the housing density multiple?
That's a fair point but impossible to quantify.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #727 on: December 29, 2020, 03:59:26 PM »
Why is that related? More young people = higher risk for the old people?
That's a fair point but impossible to quantify.

But בושה could be quantified? (Or magnified?).

Whose בושה is this?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #729 on: December 29, 2020, 04:09:37 PM »
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1909289/wheres-our-shame-frum-jews-skirt-health-laws-as-non-jews-look-on-rav-asher-weiss-speaks-out.html

From my distant vantage point it seems to me that with some exceptions the frum communities are stricter in adhering to health guidelines that the general population.

Urging people to be strict and careful is commendable, I am not so sure about saying anything with a negative connotation about other Jews.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #730 on: December 29, 2020, 04:13:05 PM »
From my distant vantage point it seems to me that with some exceptions the frum communities are stricter in adhering to health guidelines that the general population.
You can't be serious

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #731 on: December 29, 2020, 04:18:05 PM »
You can't be serious
Did you see images of the Ger protest?

Contrast that with images from the black flag protests.

Twitter is full of images and videos showing non-compliance in the general population.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #732 on: December 29, 2020, 04:21:25 PM »
Did you see images of the Ger protest?

Contrast that with images from the black flag protests.

Twitter is full of images and videos showing non-compliance in the general population.
Ger that is the outlier and strictest sect in Israel, and still infected thousands of people in ill conceived capsules with shared air over Yomim Noraim?

Outdoor protests can't be super spreader gatherings and aren't a big driver of infection.

The black flags movement is a tiny percentage of non religious Jews. Virtually every single Religious Jew is either attending minyan indoors or sending their family to schools that were open against prevailing laws.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #733 on: December 29, 2020, 04:35:54 PM »
Why is that related? More young people = higher risk for the old people?
forsure, if the non religious guy has all of his 2.5 grandchildren visit him, he multiplied his risk of dying by 2.5
if the religious guy sees 1/3 of his 30 grandchildren he multiplies his risk of dying by 10

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #734 on: December 29, 2020, 04:39:50 PM »
You can't be serious
its true.
ive been around to both sectors, and the chareidi population was taking this way more serious

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #735 on: December 29, 2020, 07:20:16 PM »
its true.
ive been around to both sectors, and the chareidi population was taking this way more serious

Maybe some people neet to get out more.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #736 on: December 29, 2020, 07:55:11 PM »
Maybe some people neet to get out more.
Says the guy who posted here countless times how his community doesn't need to wear masks and doesn't need to socially distance, yet insists his community is more obedient to public health directives even when presented with the evidence of a 4x death rate.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #737 on: December 29, 2020, 08:59:24 PM »
Says the guy who posted here countless times how his community doesn't need to wear masks and doesn't need to socially distance, yet insists his community is more obedient to public health directives even when presented with the evidence of a 4x death rate.

Whoa. Talk about twisting words, conflating statements, and putting words in people's mouths...
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #738 on: December 29, 2020, 09:13:45 PM »
Says the guy who posted here countless times how his community doesn't need to wear masks and doesn't need to socially distance, yet insists his community is more obedient to public health directives even when presented with the evidence of a 4x death rate.
In Israel?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #739 on: December 29, 2020, 09:15:15 PM »
In Israel?
The prevailing frum attitude is similar in Brooklyn, Lakewood, and Bnei Brak, yes.
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