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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #820 on: January 01, 2021, 02:12:35 PM »
And set up a vaccine station as a tourist attraction :)

They'd rake it in. Only issue is tourists might not wanna stay the 3-4 weeks for the second dose.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #821 on: January 01, 2021, 02:20:36 PM »
They'd rake it in. Only issue is tourists might not wanna stay the 3-4 weeks for the second dose.
they can come back a year later and get the second dose :)
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #822 on: January 01, 2021, 02:36:40 PM »
And set up a vaccine station as a tourist attraction :)

Gives a new meaning to Medical tourism.

Next thing you know, the Chinese will come up with a cheap Chinese knock-off and everyone will be going to China or buying it on Alibaba.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #824 on: January 01, 2021, 02:47:59 PM »
Who is telling them not to get vaccinated? Makes sense, but I haven't actually seen that.
Related DP: My father received monoclonal antibodies from Eli Lilly within a couple of days of infection. His doctor told him those antibodies leave the system within a couple of weeks, and it’s not clear if his body would have mounted its own immune response. He checked for antibodies and came back positive yesterday, so the doctor advised him to hold off on receiving the vaccine for now.

Interesting footnote. The doctor told him if you don’t need the vaccine (meaning if you are positive for antibodies) you should not get it at this point, because all vaccines carry some inherent risk. However, he believes the risk of contracting COVID is undoubtedly worse than the risk from the vaccine for any healthy adult so any adult who is not positive for antibodies should certainly take the vaccine as soon as it is available to them.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #825 on: January 01, 2021, 03:08:35 PM »
Interesting footnote. The doctor told him if you don’t need the vaccine (meaning if you are positive for antibodies) you should not get it at this point, because all vaccines carry some inherent risk. However, he believes the risk of contracting COVID is undoubtedly worse than the risk from the vaccine for any healthy adult so any adult who is not positive for antibodies should certainly take the vaccine as soon as it is available to them.

Exactly! Plain old common sense.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #826 on: January 01, 2021, 03:23:10 PM »
And set up a vaccine station as a tourist attraction :)
Gonna be very difficult, apparently large shareholders and directors are giving the Pfizer execs a very hard time over prioritizing Israel and irking other countries.

We won't see Israel publicly advertising vaccine for money for a long time, although it's technically possible to buy today if you can get into Israel.
Exactly! Plain old common sense.
Please let us the know the stats you used to determine your 'plain old common sense'. Specifically the likelihood of vaccine adverse effect vs the likelihood of reinfection (and severe outcomes) for people with positive antibodies test.

(And don't change the argument to prioritization and better give the vaccine to somebody without antibodies. The reasoning posted was that inherent risk of vaccine outweighs covid reinfection)

Who is telling them not to get vaccinated? Makes sense, but I haven't actually seen that.
The original prioritization rules excluded people with positive antibodies tests, that's since been revised and now anybody over 60+ is entitled to get the vaccine, and its easy for younger people with a bit of hocking. 



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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #827 on: January 01, 2021, 03:55:21 PM »
Chevra Kadisha can get the vaccine.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #828 on: January 02, 2021, 04:57:12 PM »
Anywhere to get an oximeter? Preferably delivered to givat zeev?
Ask any neighbor who had Covid. They probably got one free from kupat cholim.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #829 on: January 02, 2021, 05:06:59 PM »
I didn’t hock anyone. I called my kupat cholim Thursday morning, they gave me an appointment for Thursday evening. I was in and out in 20 minutes. Additionally there are walk in locations where you don’t need an appointment at all.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #831 on: January 02, 2021, 07:51:59 PM »
Gonna be very difficult, apparently large shareholders and directors are giving the Pfizer execs a very hard time over prioritizing Israel and irking other countries.

We won't see Israel publicly advertising vaccine for money for a long time, although it's technically possible to buy today if you can get into Israel. Please let us the know the stats you used to determine your 'plain old common sense'. Specifically the likelihood of vaccine adverse effect vs the likelihood of reinfection (and severe outcomes) for people with positive antibodies test.

(And don't change the argument to prioritization and better give the vaccine to somebody without antibodies. The reasoning posted was that inherent risk of vaccine outweighs covid reinfection)
The original prioritization rules excluded people with positive antibodies tests, that's since been revised and now anybody over 60+ is entitled to get the vaccine, and its easy for younger people with a bit of hocking.

Lighten up.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #832 on: January 02, 2021, 08:48:50 PM »
I didn’t hock anyone. I called my kupat cholim Thursday morning, they gave me an appointment for Thursday evening. I was in and out in 20 minutes. Additionally there are walk in locations where you don’t need an appointment at all.
If you are under 60 this is only Meuchedet
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #833 on: January 03, 2021, 01:35:39 AM »
I have had 0 luck getting an appointment with a high risk person in my house. Very frustrating.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #834 on: January 03, 2021, 01:38:09 AM »
I saw a theory that Israel’s success can be attributed to post-traumatic survivalism, which can be seen in a higher rate of pregnancy tests & birth rate  (obviously this is just to explain how the nes manifested itself)
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #835 on: January 03, 2021, 01:43:19 AM »
I have had 0 luck getting an appointment with a high risk person in my house. Very frustrating.
Even when you show up in person?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #836 on: January 03, 2021, 01:44:12 AM »
I have had 0 luck getting an appointment with a high risk person in my house. Very frustrating.
Are you willing to go out of your way?

Call individual Kupah branches, not the hotlines

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #837 on: January 03, 2021, 02:39:27 AM »
Ask any neighbor who had Covid. They probably got one free from kupat cholim.
They got from kupat cholim on Friday. Thank you

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #838 on: January 03, 2021, 05:15:02 AM »
Even when you show up in person?

Honestly dont even know where to go.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #839 on: January 03, 2021, 05:18:00 AM »
Honestly dont even know where to go.
Check on your kupat holim's website for the nearest vaccination center