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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1100 on: January 17, 2021, 06:31:36 PM »
Legally? With no capacity restrictions?
We're officially in a pretty tight lockdown, of course it's illegal.



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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1101 on: January 17, 2021, 06:32:51 PM »
We're officially in a pretty tight lockdown, of course it's illegal.

Hence the Huldai question and the question as to the appropriate Charedi political response.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1102 on: January 17, 2021, 06:34:49 PM »
Hence the Huldai question and the question as to the appropriate Charedi political response.
Practically speaking it doesn't matter so why would they get involved?


Also, it won't help much since it's mostly 60+ who will be vaccinated (with second shot) in the near future. They don't fill up the shuls and yeshivos.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1103 on: January 17, 2021, 06:37:32 PM »
Practically speaking it doesn't matter so why would they get involved?


Also, it won't help much since it's mostly 60+ who will be vaccinated (with second shot) in the near future. They don't fill up the shuls and yeshivos.

I hear your sensible argument. The question is whether it might still be politically expedient to back Huldai on this one.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1104 on: January 17, 2021, 06:39:08 PM »
Hence the Huldai question and the question as to the appropriate Charedi political response.

Why does there need to be an appropriate Charedi political response when Shuls/Yeshivos/Kollelim/Chadorim are operating regularly?
To anyone who understands Charedi parties will know that they generally don't get involved in political matters when it is of no relevance to the Charedi general public. For example does anyone know what the economic policies of Degel HaTorah are or the foreign policy of Agudas Yisrael?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1105 on: January 18, 2021, 12:32:38 AM »
141k vaccinated yesterday. Some first, some second dose.

Positive percentage up to 9.1%. Not really seeing much of any vaccination effects.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1106 on: January 18, 2021, 02:40:39 AM »
141k vaccinated yesterday. Some first, some second dose.

Positive percentage up to 9.1%. Not really seeing much of any vaccination effects.

There is no practical lockdown going on, as you can see from the above schools/yeshivos/shuls are all open. Based on what is seen by breakdown of cities, charedi areas are the hardest hit, 1+1=2.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1109 on: January 18, 2021, 08:02:52 AM »
Positive percentage up to 9.1%. Not really seeing much of any vaccination effects.

It would potentially be worse R”L without the vaccine...
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1110 on: January 18, 2021, 08:27:30 AM »
It would potentially be worse R”L without the vaccine...

Just imagine how much worse it would be without the אויבערשטער.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1111 on: January 18, 2021, 08:30:35 AM »
Just imagine how much worse it would be without the אויבערשטער.

Without the Eibishter there wouldn't be a world......

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1112 on: January 18, 2021, 08:34:53 AM »
Just imagine how much worse it would be without the אויבערשטער.

Unfortunately we don’t have גילוי שם הוי׳, all we have is אלוקי-ם בגמטרי׳ הטבע.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1113 on: January 18, 2021, 08:43:04 AM »
Without the Eibishter there wouldn't be a world......

You really think so?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1114 on: January 18, 2021, 08:51:39 AM »
You really think so?

That quote/story about being an atheist when other Jews are suffering, in a sense it might be applicable here too.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1115 on: January 18, 2021, 09:18:07 AM »
You really think so?

I hope you are being sarcastic. Everything only exists because HaShem wills it.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1116 on: January 18, 2021, 09:36:07 AM »
סקר סרולוגי ב"שיבא" חושף: 98% מהנבדקים שחוסנו פעמיים - פיתחו נוגדנים לקורונה

Amazing.

https://www.maariv.co.il/corona/corona-israel/Article-815939

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1117 on: January 18, 2021, 10:28:52 AM »
סקר סרולוגי ב"שיבא" חושף: 98% מהנבדקים שחוסנו פעמיים - פיתחו נוגדנים לקורונה

Amazing.

https://www.maariv.co.il/corona/corona-israel/Article-815939

Would be great to see a better breakdown/chart by age and interval of days after first/second dose.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1118 on: January 18, 2021, 10:39:20 AM »
Would be great to see a better breakdown/chart by age and interval of days after first/second dose.

And even better, if they actually compare it to antibody results of people that recovered from covid, as well as see what happens with those that recovered and then get a single dose.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1119 on: January 18, 2021, 11:03:28 AM »
And even better, if they actually compare it to antibody results of people that recovered from covid, as well as see what happens with those that recovered and then get a single dose.

I don’t disagree.

How extensive is antibody testing in Israel. My guess is it isn’t. If it was, you can just find all antibody tests for patients who had positive PCR and/or 1/2 vaccine doses and analyze aggregate the data.
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