Author Topic: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel  (Read 296981 times)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1140 on: January 18, 2021, 04:18:12 PM »
That’s surprising with all the talk of immunity potentially dwindling after 6-12 months.

Or data suppression.

But don't worry. A positive antibody test will still not get you anywhere in Israel.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1141 on: January 18, 2021, 04:24:30 PM »
Or data suppression.

But don't worry. A positive antibody test will still not get you anywhere in Israel.
A positive antibody test performed locally exempts one from quarantine.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1142 on: January 18, 2021, 04:43:16 PM »
A positive antibody test performed locally exempts one from quarantine.
Except when it doesn't.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1143 on: January 18, 2021, 05:27:35 PM »
Thanks. So they are issuing vaccination certificates, but no the green passport yet, afaik it will be rolled out next week.

שגיאה means error
Man is that website buggy, now it just spins after I submit and nothing happens
Found this in the network tab. LOL

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1144 on: January 18, 2021, 05:40:51 PM »
There are 4 young pregnant women in Israel who are now in critical condition, at least some of whom had no prior comorbidities.

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2021_q1/Article-65780a1f9371771027.htm
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1145 on: January 19, 2021, 01:55:01 AM »
There are 4 young pregnant women in Israel who are now in critical condition, at least some of whom had no prior comorbidities.

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2021_q1/Article-65780a1f9371771027.htm

They keep saying this wave was/is much worse for younger people. Is this shown as well in other countries? I know in England there was conflicting reports.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1146 on: January 19, 2021, 02:00:50 AM »
Over 10,000 new cases on Monday!! This is getting out of hand very fast!

Serious cases a little down but I imagine its because the death toll rose by a similar number.

2,185,113 total people with the first shot
420,015 with the second shot

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1147 on: January 19, 2021, 02:17:43 AM »
There are 4 young pregnant women in Israel who are now in critical condition, at least some of whom had no prior comorbidities.

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2021_q1/Article-65780a1f9371771027.htm

Here it says 10

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/295171

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1148 on: January 19, 2021, 04:43:06 AM »
I would be hard pressed to believe that the antibody testing and the relevant data and analysis aren't deliberately supressed.

Anecdotal DP: Many people in the Mir took the free antibody test from Kupat Cholim (mostly Meuchedet) and were given negative results. (They only give negative/positive, not the level of antibodies, and you need at least 40(?) to be positive). Many of these people also took a paid antibody test through Sheba? Shamir? and got back results with levels...many had antibody levels much higher than 40. (The ones I saw were in the 70-90 range.)
I know that there are people in the hanhala (that are taking care of the bachurim, and have seen hundreds, if not thousands of test results) that do not trust a negative antibody test through the Kupot Cholim

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1149 on: January 19, 2021, 04:44:51 AM »
Man is that website buggy, now it just spins after I submit and nothing happens
Found this in the network tab. LOL

Now they took down the link... I had a feeling it was beta testing, at best :)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1150 on: January 19, 2021, 04:56:55 AM »
Clalit broadens vaccination campaign to include those aged 40 and over.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/529347

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1151 on: January 19, 2021, 04:57:59 AM »
Anecdotal DP: Many people in the Mir took the free antibody test from Kupat Cholim (mostly Meuchedet) and were given negative results. (They only give negative/positive, not the level of antibodies, and you need at least 40(?) to be positive). Many of these people also took a paid antibody test through Sheba? Shamir? and got back results with levels...many had antibody levels much higher than 40. (The ones I saw were in the 70-90 range.)
I know that there are people in the hanhala (that are taking care of the bachurim, and have seen hundreds, if not thousands of test results) that do not trust a negative antibody test through the Kupot Cholim

All Kupot Cholims in general or just the one by Mir?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1152 on: January 19, 2021, 08:34:39 AM »
Serious cases a little down but I imagine its because the death toll rose by a similar number.
What do you mean by this?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1153 on: January 19, 2021, 08:40:54 AM »
What do you mean by this?

When you stop saying מי שברך for a sick person it could be for one of two reasons.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1154 on: January 19, 2021, 08:48:31 AM »
When you stop saying מי שברך for a sick person it could be for one of two reasons.
But why would that correlate to serious cases going down? If cases are going up in general while serious cases are trending down -  that can't be (only) because of deaths.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1155 on: January 19, 2021, 08:52:36 AM »
But why would that correlate to serious cases going down? If cases are going up in general while serious cases are trending down -  that can't be (only) because of deaths.

The drop in serious cases was 14.
The uptick in deaths R"L was 44

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1156 on: January 19, 2021, 09:15:56 AM »
But why would that correlate to serious cases going down? If cases are going up in general while serious cases are trending down -  that can't be (only) because of deaths.

It could also mean (not saying it does) better treatment protocols and/or early intervention.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1157 on: January 19, 2021, 10:38:37 AM »
The drop in serious cases was 14.
The uptick in deaths R"L was 44

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I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1158 on: January 19, 2021, 01:42:24 PM »
Seger extended another 10 days, at least  :'(




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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1159 on: January 19, 2021, 01:58:10 PM »
Did you read the agreement at all and what data they are dealing with????
This REAL-WORLD EPIDEMIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE COLLABORATION AGREEMENT
dated as of January 6, 2021
Which makes it even weirder that they redacted it on the bottom of every page. (yes, I am making an assumption.)

Okay, guess I was mistaken about that. None of this shows anything at all about how effective the vaccine is for those who take it or anything else regarding these individuals. This is only about how vaccination rates affect the overall population and what vaccination rate is needed to reach herd immunity. The only information being tracked is from the overall population.

Seems that way, but this is pretty inclusive


• Additional subgroup analyses and vaccine effectiveness analyses, as agreed by the Parties
I'm no lawyer so may be reading this wrong.
Also, is it at all suspicious that the liabilities section is entirely redacted. (I presume it contains a list of things they are worried about and therefore making sure to exempt themselves explicitly.)
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