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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1300 on: January 25, 2021, 01:47:03 AM »
That's exactly the point. It's because citizen use these practices (likely to a larger extent than other countries imho) that the government needs to adjust its response.
The entire story of covid is about peoples disregard for the common safety in the name of difficulty & the greater good. More than a billion people in Asia with superior discipline (aka sheep) avoided the death toll almost completely.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1301 on: January 25, 2021, 01:47:34 AM »
That's exactly the point. It's because citizen use these practices (likely to a larger extent than other countries imho) that the government needs to adjust its response.

Or maybe it's the other way around, because there's no reasonable (even if somewhat draconian) measure, people resort to the easy bypass of the overreaching measures.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1302 on: January 25, 2021, 01:51:34 AM »
Or maybe it's the other way around, because there's no reasonable (even if somewhat draconian) measure, people resort to the easy bypass of the overreaching measures.
Every crime is brought about by circumstances that pushed the perpetrators. It doesn’t make it OK and it certainly doesn’t save them from hate and resultant discrimination or violence.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1303 on: January 25, 2021, 01:54:48 AM »
I just don't understand. there are rules in Israel regarding quarantine upon return.....

Why are people fighting it still?!? No one made you go to Dubai

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1304 on: January 25, 2021, 01:56:58 AM »
I just don't understand. there are rules in Israel regarding quarantine upon return.....

Why are people fighting it still?!? No one made you go to Dubai
Same reason people do all kind of harmful or irresponsible actions, שאור שבעיסה - Yetzer Hara.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1305 on: January 25, 2021, 03:21:00 AM »
Every crime is brought about by circumstances that pushed the perpetrators. It doesn’t make it OK and it certainly doesn’t save them from hate and resultant discrimination or violence.
Nobody said it's ok

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1306 on: January 25, 2021, 03:23:27 AM »
Chilling account from a MDA ambulance driver

https://m.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10157639301495974&set=a.10150395234705974

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1307 on: January 25, 2021, 06:29:48 AM »
Positive percentage in Israel went up to 9.3% yesterday, but they're doing fewer tests recently.

200k vaccinated.

Pfizer delivered another 500k doses yesterday, but Israel now only has 5.6 million total doses. They still have from the first big batch, but they are doing now 1.2 million doses a week, so...

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1309 on: January 25, 2021, 09:46:12 AM »
Do the photoshop labs conform with HIPAA?

Urgent Care in Crown Heights told me that police are investigating a case of someone who copied their stationary and ordered copies printed in a print shop, and was selling doctor's notes for $50/pc.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1310 on: January 25, 2021, 09:52:42 AM »
Urgent Care in Crown Heights told me that police are investigating a case of someone who copied their stationary and ordered copies printed in a print shop, and was selling doctor's notes for $50/pc.
Wow
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1311 on: January 25, 2021, 10:00:58 AM »
Urgent Care in Crown Heights told me that police are investigating a case of someone who copied their stationary and ordered copies printed in a print shop, and was selling doctor's notes for $50/pc.

They themselves are making money hand over fist with PCR and antibody testing. Their stationary is all over the place.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1312 on: January 25, 2021, 10:04:48 AM »
They themselves are making money hand over fist with PCR and antibody testing. Their stationary is all over the place.

So? Prior to that they were making money courtesy of Obamacare (did you notice that they entire Urgent Care business mushroomed after Obamacare was passed). Nothing wrong with making the best for oneself out of a situation.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1313 on: January 25, 2021, 10:07:31 AM »
So? Prior to that they were making money courtesy of Obamacare (did you notice that they entire Urgent Care business mushroomed after Obamacare was passed). Nothing wrong with making the best for oneself out of a situation.

Did Obamacare specifically legislate urgent care, or did someone find a loophole to provide care outside of PCP (lock-in and negotiated rates) and emergency rooms (high rates but narrow scope) that turned out quite lucrative and thus ballooned into what urgent care is today?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1314 on: January 25, 2021, 10:11:04 AM »
Back to covid and the use of photoshop.
The question is how do we get a common database which will be shared by airlines / governments and where it affiliated labs can connect to?

Atm at BGI the check in agent are only checking pieces of papers. They should be provided with the ability to check into the MoH database

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1315 on: January 25, 2021, 10:21:45 AM »
Back to covid and the use of photoshop.
The question is how do we get a common database which will be shared by airlines / governments and where it affiliated labs can connect to?

Atm at BGI the check in agent are only checking pieces of papers. They should be provided with the ability to check into the MoH database

It would require a global concerted effort of sharing information and specific privacy release for this purpose. Not a piece of cake, but definitely doable. If only they would treat this like they treat money laundering.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1316 on: January 25, 2021, 10:23:05 AM »
It would require a global concerted effort of sharing information and specific privacy release for this purpose. Not a piece of cake, but definitely doable.

Then it becomes a discussion of whom to let into the consortium. Let in any bad actors and they’ll sell people access to get listed however they want.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1317 on: January 25, 2021, 10:25:36 AM »
Then it becomes a discussion of whom to let into the consortium. Let in any bad actors and they’ll sell people access to get listed however they want.

OECD is a starting point.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #1318 on: January 25, 2021, 12:09:20 PM »
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Wow! This is a major development.

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