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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2460 on: July 21, 2021, 08:27:49 AM »
Is this good or bad news?

Seemingly good news because the same immune response that slows the progression to severe for patients that progress to that, stops many other patients from even getting there.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2461 on: July 21, 2021, 08:30:09 AM »
I had a few nephews on respirators a few months ago from RSV

I don’t have the data in front of me, but RSV likely has much lower mortality for patients on ventilators vs. COVID.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2462 on: July 21, 2021, 11:15:23 AM »
As of August 1st, adults (18 and over) will be administered Moderna vaccines (except if previously received one dose of Pfizer). Pfizer vaccines will be administered to teenagers between the ages of 12 and 18.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1udpos000
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2463 on: July 21, 2021, 11:31:12 AM »
As of August 1st, adults (18 and over) will be administered Moderna vaccines (except if previously received one dose of Pfizer). Pfizer vaccines will be administered to teenagers between the ages of 12 and 18.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1udpos000

Why? What happened to the cushy relationship with Bourla/Pfizer?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2464 on: July 21, 2021, 11:31:55 AM »
Why? What happened to the cushy relationship with Bourla/Pfizer?
IINM they received a large batch in February and hardly used it so far

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2465 on: July 21, 2021, 12:48:05 PM »
IINM they received a large batch in February and hardly used it so far

Yup, there was talk about them swapping with South Korea (IIRC) to give them doses now in exchange for future doses (so that the existing supply could be used by SK before they expire).

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2466 on: July 21, 2021, 01:02:03 PM »
Yup, there was talk about them swapping with South Korea (IIRC) to give them doses now in exchange for future doses (so that the existing supply could be used by SK before they expire).
More than talk.

https://news.yahoo.com/israel-south-korea-agree-swap-195842793.html

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2467 on: July 21, 2021, 05:53:45 PM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2468 on: Yesterday at 09:51:34 AM »

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2469 on: Yesterday at 02:11:47 PM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2470 on: Yesterday at 02:15:40 PM »
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hkok4qpad


Do I smell panic coming?
Dunno but I can definitely smell gloating in this post ;)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2471 on: Yesterday at 02:20:09 PM »
Dunno but I can definitely smell gloating in this post ;)

You are probably still suffering from long-term effects of COVID-19 impairing your sense of smell.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2472 on: Yesterday at 02:27:52 PM »
Starting next Thu. people entering places such as restaurants and Shuls will have to show vaccination proof or negative COVID test after surge in cases.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2473 on: Yesterday at 02:35:14 PM »
Starting next Thu. people entering places such as restaurants and Shuls in non chareidi areas will have to show vaccination proof or negative COVID test after surge in cases.

ftfy

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2474 on: Yesterday at 04:46:40 PM »
Dunno but I can definitely smell gloating in this post ;)
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2475 on: Yesterday at 08:06:43 PM »
גם אני מצטרף להgloat

They made such a געטשקע out of the vaccines, that when it turns out to be less effective than thought, they are at a total loss.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2476 on: Yesterday at 08:12:08 PM »
That was against Alpha, but they are still highly effective against hospitalizations for Delta.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2477 on: Yesterday at 08:13:14 PM »
That was against Alpha, but they are still highly effective against hospitalizations for Delta.
They seem to be generally a good thing. If what we know now was pitched as לכתחילה I think most peope would still take it. What's disturbing is the גאוה that science has to say "I know", be proven wrong, and the next day continue saying the same "I know".
They made such a געטשקע out of the vaccines, that when it turns out to be less effective than thought, they are at a total loss.
I understand most people that got vaccinated. I don't understand why they think it's מובן מאליו that it's the most responsible thing to do. Forget about on a כלל level, on a personal level, if everyone around me is vaccinated, unless I'm in a risk group, my risk from covid is so low IMO it doesn't make sense to vaccinate. Everyone will jump and say it's morally corrupt. I dont think it's more morally corrupt than not going to the army because it doesn't fit my values even though realistically their needs to be an army. Are they working for me? Suffering where I don't? Yes. And me suffering with them or taking the shot won't change anything for everyone. And yes if everyone would say that it would be disaster. I'm open to a better plan. Untill then il enjoy my right to personal liberty.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2478 on: Yesterday at 08:16:20 PM »
That was against Alpha, but they are still highly effective against hospitalizations for Delta.

Are those names of different געטשקעס?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #2479 on: Yesterday at 08:19:58 PM »
I understand most people that got vaccinated. I don't understand why they think it's מובן מאליו that it's the most responsible thing to do. Forget about on a כלל level,
Why?

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on a personal level, if everyone around me is vaccinated, unless I'm in a risk group, my risk from covid is so low IMO it doesn't make sense to vaccinate.
How does your "risk group" change as new variants of the virus appear?