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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3040 on: September 14, 2021, 03:09:53 PM »
im not about to claim that all the graphs are lying, but ALL of the ppl i know that got infected over the past 3 weeks, and they are quite a few, were ALL vaccinated at least twice.
dono, its weird...
It's *severe* cases

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3041 on: September 14, 2021, 03:12:03 PM »
im not about to claim that all the graphs are lying, but ALL of the ppl i know that got infected over the past 3 weeks, and they are quite a few, were ALL vaccinated at least twice.
dono, its weird...
Israel or abroad? This chart refers to Israel's #s. Also do you know anyone Not vaxxed??

To me, it looks like Israel started off with lots of breakthrough vaccinated cases especially in elderly..
It moved along to the chareidim which I believe not all are vaccinated...
& now the #s are in the Arab community & everywhere else...
Anyone else notice this pattern or am I off?
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3042 on: September 14, 2021, 03:38:50 PM »
If I get the first shot in Miami, Pfizer, Can I get the second one in Israel?

I'm traveling in two and a half weeks and I don't think I have enough time to get both of them here

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3043 on: September 14, 2021, 03:48:31 PM »
im not about to claim that all the graphs are lying, but ALL of the ppl i know that got infected over the past 3 weeks, and they are quite a few, were ALL vaccinated at least twice.
dono, its weird...
How many people do you know not vaxxed?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3044 on: September 14, 2021, 04:05:40 PM »
How many people do you know not vaxxed?
plenty

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3045 on: September 14, 2021, 04:18:49 PM »

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3046 on: September 14, 2021, 06:54:26 PM »
im not about to claim that all the graphs are lying, but ALL of the ppl i know that got infected over the past 3 weeks, and they are quite a few, were ALL vaccinated at least twice.
dono, its weird...
How severe were they? The chart is only discussing the severely ill.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3047 on: September 15, 2021, 12:05:24 AM »
im not about to claim that all the graphs are lying, but ALL of the ppl i know that got infected over the past 3 weeks, and they are quite a few, were ALL vaccinated at least twice.
dono, its weird...

It's weird, bur most anti/non vaxers I know are also anti test...

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3048 on: September 15, 2021, 12:26:07 AM »
The usual practice is to record both the immediate cause of death as well as other contributing factors, with the understanding that it is often not possible to ascertain which is primary at the moment of death.  So most death certificates contain multiple causes. 

You say that this is "misleading", which implies that those who record the death are misinforming others.  A better term would be "misunderstood", that is, the general public who read a death certificate are often unaware of the reasons for including multiple contributing factors, and some of them may mistakenly suspect that it is something that suddenly appeared in covid times.  It's been done like that for a century or so.

True in terms of death certificates etc - the difference is when it is publicized to the general public without mentioning other factors.  At that point, it becomes misleading, rather than misunderstood.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3049 on: September 15, 2021, 12:29:07 AM »
If I get the first shot in Miami, Pfizer, Can I get the second one in Israel?

I'm traveling in two and a half weeks and I don't think I have enough time to get both of them here
What’s the rush to get it now?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3050 on: September 15, 2021, 02:08:13 AM »
What’s the rush to get it now?

To visit Spain I need to be fully vaccinated, actually won't help since it's 14 days....

I'd skip Spain but really pita from tlv since I fly back from Barcelona go Miami at 10am.. I'd have to spend the night in airport.

The original plan was Mia - BCN - tlv.. return to BCN for a few days then Miami.

Such a pain in the tuches, If I could have gotten a refund on the first ticket to Barcelona on America and I would have simply purchased mia to tlv direct for $50 more than this meshugas.


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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3051 on: September 15, 2021, 02:15:26 AM »
So pay a few dollars & u can “get” the second dose.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3052 on: September 15, 2021, 02:18:37 AM »
Compared to vaxxed?
never tallied, but plenty of both
It's weird, bur most anti/non vaxers I know are also anti test...
even those who dont test know when they have it

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3053 on: September 15, 2021, 02:25:19 AM »
So pay a few dollars & u can “get” the second dose.

Having booking issues with arkia anyways, I gave up..

Found an El Al flight 5am to BCN, gets there 10, flight is posted as 11 but I hope they don't switch it back to 10.

All in $700 round trip. Same damn thing

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3054 on: September 15, 2021, 02:26:34 AM »
Omg! Hope it works out!
So much planning for a little vocation

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3055 on: September 15, 2021, 05:43:34 AM »
9.5k new cases in Israel yesterday.
Serious cases down to 650.

R is up to 1.06.

5.7% positive.

1,646, or 17% are Charedim.

Arabs up to 20% of cases.

Yet another 354 cases came in from Ukraine yesterday.

Reinfections are 1% of the total.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3056 on: September 17, 2021, 02:35:34 AM »
Omg! Hope it works out!
So much planning for a little vocation
Better said- 'So much for planning a vacation & vaccination simultaneously!'
@chevron Best of Luck to you! Hope you find a plan that works out well for you!
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3057 on: September 17, 2021, 02:38:37 AM »
9.5k new cases in Israel yesterday.
Serious cases down to 650.

Reinfections are 1% of the total.
Reinfections- 1% & do we know if mild or severe cases? What is the percentage of breakthrough cases?
Yet Israel announced that Green Passports will not include those with natural immunity.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #3058 on: September 19, 2021, 06:40:03 AM »
Yet Israel announced that Green Passports will not include those with natural immunity.
Source?

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