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Why is everyone jumping to defund police.
So we should have lawless people and no police to defend?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2020, 04:24:41 AM »
some will say life got better
go for it... Let's see how long it lasts. Govt officias also have to give up their police details and private security will not be taxpayer funded

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2020, 07:06:03 AM »
some will say life got better

Criminals?

go for it... Let's see how long it lasts. Govt officias also have to give up their police details and private security will not be taxpayer funded

This would be a silver lining. These politicians could use a reminder that they’re a citizen like everyone else.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2020, 08:53:04 AM »
Criminals?

This would be a silver lining. These politicians could use a reminder that they’re a citizen like everyone else.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2020, 09:05:12 AM »
In the 2014 NYPD strike, crime was down. It may be because crime statistics are recorded by Police, but either way a strike is not going to help the Police.

The smart thing to do is to join the protests and not be perceived as the enemy. The bamboo that bends is stronger than the oak that resists. Doesn't help to be dead right.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2020, 09:09:30 AM »
Police around the country can help make the decision easy....
Effective immediately they can go on strike. Let's see how the country fares without any police...
Glad you understand what defunding means.  ::)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2020, 09:42:19 AM »
Glad you understand what defunding means.  ::)
it means different things to many different people. According to protesters in Minneapolis it means shutting down the police department.

Quote from: KSAT
That depends on who you ask, said Philip McHarris, a doctoral candidate in sociology at Yale University and lead research and policy associate at the Community Resource Hub for Safety and Accountability.

Some supporters of divestment want to reallocate some, but not all, funds away from police departments to social services. Some want to strip all police funding and dissolve departments.
Since you couldn't be bothered to look up the definition, I did it for you.
Quote from: Oxford Dictionary
de·fund
/dēˈfənd/
Learn to pronounce
verbUS
prevent from continuing to receive funds.
"the California Legislature has defunded the Industrial Welfare Commission"
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2020, 09:43:49 AM »
So basically officials in minority urban areas decrease police funding resulting in a wave of (at least quality of life) crime in those areas, which will spur the electorate in nearby white middle class and wealthy suburbs to increase their police funding, resulting in an even more stark contrast between the black and white neighborhoods,  causing middle class unease when urban residents from the high crime area are in their neighborhoods, which will result in more BLM protests etc.

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2020, 09:48:36 AM »
it means different things to many different people. According to protesters in Minneapolis it means shutting down the police department.
I commented on what you said not what the protesters think.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2020, 09:52:26 AM »
I commented on what you said not what the protesters think.
I'm following the dictionary definition

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2020, 09:55:12 AM »
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: defund equals ban police
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: gun control equals ban guns

You can't reason with these type of people. They are the problem not the solution.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2020, 09:56:01 AM »
I'm following the dictionary definition
Glad you understand what defunding means.  ::)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2020, 09:57:16 AM »
I commented on what you said not what the protesters think.
Wasn't he talking about what the protestors were protesting about?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2020, 09:58:12 AM »
Wasn't he talking about what the protestors were protesting about?
Nice try but now it has changed to:
I'm following the dictionary definition
Just like all the different versions why they gassed peaceful protesters. When one BS reason doesn't work try another one.  :)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2020, 10:00:54 AM »
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: defund equals ban police
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: gun control equals ban guns

You can't reason with these type of people. They are the problem not the solution.
your funny. You refuse to acknowledge that black lives matter actually called to disband the police which is what "right-wingers" are responding to.
You and others might have a different meaning but that is not the dictionary definition not the BLM definition.
Everyone is entitled to their g-d given right if stupidity.
I'm neither right wing or left wing. I used to be apolitical based on years years of political garbage but after reading the garbage being spewed on DDF for the past several months I'm just apathetic.
Nice try but now it has changed to:Just like all the different versions why they gassed peaceful protesters. When one BS reason doesn't work try another one.  :)
come on... I was clearly referring to the protesters who probably got the correct definition. You might mean something else like a partial refunding but that's not what was said.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2020, 10:01:00 AM »
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: defund equals ban police
Right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers: gun control equals ban guns

You can't reason with these type of people. They are the problem not the solution.

Except the actual protesters want to ban police and they say that explicitly.

https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL/videos/2941201402600418/
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2020, 10:05:20 AM »
Except the actual protesters want to ban police and they say that explicitly.

https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL/videos/2941201402600418/
ye. We've already showed what the protesters want. @CountValentine has a hard time with facts. Time to send him back to the cesspool minyan threads

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2020, 10:05:42 AM »
Except the actual protesters want to ban police and they say that explicitly.

https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL/videos/2941201402600418/
There are no shortage of idiots on the left either.
Do you really believe the majority or even close to a majority of just liberals (leave R's out) want to get rid of ALL police?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2020, 10:07:02 AM »
ye. We've already showed what the protesters want. @CountValentine has a hard time with facts. Time to send him back to the cesspool minyan threads
Anyone that believes that that majority or even close to a majority feel we should get rid of all police is a complete idiot.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2020, 10:07:24 AM »
There are no shortage of idiots on the left either.
Do you really believe the majority or even close to a majority of just liberals (leave R's out) want to get rid of ALL police?
a prominent vocal minority known as BLM movement has explicitly called for it. That's not some fringe nutcase that's a very vocal minority whom the politicians are actually marching with.