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Why is everyone jumping to defund police.
So we should have lawless people and no police to defend?
« Last edited by username on June 08, 2020, 03:09:12 PM »

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2020, 01:19:26 PM »
Telling I wasn't given an option for sensible R or leaning right.
Maybe he believes there's no such thing as a sensible R...

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2020, 01:24:45 PM »
OP title:  Defunding police is the answer to racism?
OP on defunding: But why is the answer to take money from police.
Notice he is talking about taking money away, not getting rid of all police.
OP then pivots to this meaning: No funding, no police
I'm following the dictionary definition
de·fund
/dēˈfənd/
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verbUS
prevent from continuing to receive funds.

Not one person calls him out for pivoting. I wonder why, NOT!!!

Now lets answer to the OP question with his pivot definition. No funding means no police. No police means there will be no racism by police. Problem solved!  :P
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2020, 01:25:22 PM »
Maybe he believes there's no such thing as a sensible R...
Possible but the pattern of his posts say otherwise.  ;)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2020, 01:45:11 PM »
OP title:  Defunding police is the answer to racism?
OP on defunding: But why is the answer to take money from police.
Notice he is talking about taking money away, not getting rid of all police.
OP then pivots to this meaning: No funding, no policede·fund
/dēˈfənd/
Learn to pronounce
verbUS
prevent from continuing to receive funds.

Not one person calls him out for pivoting. I wonder why, NOT!!!

Now lets answer to the OP question with his pivot definition. No funding means no police. No police means there will be no racism by police. Problem solved!  :P

where did i say that?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2020, 02:04:22 PM »
I bet you are. Telling I wasn't given an option for sensible R or leaning right.
Sensible R voting for Biden? For defunding police?
I’m assuming you were a sensible democrat at one point, but slowly tilting more left. Most prob due to hanging out on msn’s Website 😜

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2020, 02:18:47 PM »
OP title:  Defunding police is the answer to racism?
OP on defunding: But why is the answer to take money from police.
Notice he is talking about taking money away, not getting rid of all police.
OP then pivots to this meaning: No funding, no policede·fund
/dēˈfənd/
Learn to pronounce
verbUS
prevent from continuing to receive funds.

Not one person calls him out for pivoting. I wonder why, NOT!!!

Now lets answer to the OP question with his pivot definition. No funding means no police. No police means there will be no racism by police. Problem solved!  :P
I'm not the OP. I believe my point was consistent throughout, though not necessarily consistent with the OP as can be seen based on the article I cited.
To make my position clear (not that anyone should actually care), I believe all taxpayer funded depts should be reviewed on on a regular basis and funds should be diverted as needed more pressing matters or eliminated entirely as needed. This should not be a nonsensical response to racism or antisemitism, or anything of that sort.
Perhaps it's just an eye-opener to what really needs to be cut similarly to how COVID19 gave me a good excuse and kick in the pants to implement several cuts that were long overdue.
 Hard for me to say if there is too much funding for police without a thorough review, but I suspect there is alot of room for efficiencies. If actual policing has even a fraction of the inefficiencies that we witness everyday at construction site police details (I know, those are privately funded), then we need to really consider cuts.
All of this really has nothing to do with actual or perceived police racism. The answer to police racism is more transparency and oversight just like every other industry.
I suspect I'm alot quicker to fire one of my employees for negligently stepping out if line with a client than a public agency.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 02:29:12 PM by moko »

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2020, 02:29:22 PM »
Protesters: "Defund the Police"
OP: "defunding the police is stupid"
@ChaimMoskowitz : "'Defund the police' doesn't mean defund the police, it means something else"

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2020, 03:01:30 PM »
Protesters: "Defund the Police"
OP: "defunding the police is stupid"
@ChaimMoskowitz : "'Defund the police' doesn't mean defund the police, it means something else"
The OP title states "Defunding police is the answer to racism?
I wonder why you are twisting everything in his favor and against me, NOT!!!
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2020, 03:04:24 PM »
where did i say that?
You pivoted to the meaning "prevent from continuing to receive funds". You going to claim even if the police are not funded we still will have police?
They going to work for free?  ::)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2020, 03:10:46 PM »
For defunding police?
Where did you get the idea I was for defunding police?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2020, 04:14:36 PM »
You pivoted to the meaning "prevent from continuing to receive funds". You going to claim even if the police are not funded we still will have police?
They going to work for free?  ::)
I thought you were in every thread. Now I see you are in my mouth as well.
#TYH

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2020, 04:40:17 PM »
I thought you were in every thread. Now I see you are in my mouth as well.
Ok lets play this silly game of yours and others here. In your title what meaning are you using for "defunding"?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2020, 06:01:11 PM »
Ok lets play this silly game of yours and others here. In your title what meaning are you using for "defunding"?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/nyregion/deblasio-nypd-funding.html

just quoting
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2020, 09:19:44 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/nyregion/deblasio-nypd-funding.html

just quoting
So you can't answer what you meant by "defunding" in the question?
That explains why you keep pivoting but not why no one besides me calls you out for it.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2020, 04:15:54 AM »
We should have only white cops in majority white neighborhoods. All black cops in black neighborhoods. All Mexican in Mexican neighborhoods. Any area that is mixed must have either race in each car.

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2020, 11:19:36 AM »
We should have only white cops in majority white neighborhoods. All black cops in black neighborhoods. All Mexican in Mexican neighborhoods. Any area that is mixed must have either race in each car.

Then what happens when a black person drives through a white community.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2020, 11:28:07 AM »

This should end well...
Weren't crime rates rising already in lockdown before the protests?
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