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Why is everyone jumping to defund police.
So we should have lawless people and no police to defend?
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Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« on: June 07, 2020, 01:25:04 PM »
Why is everyone jumping to defund police. So we should have lawless people and no police to defend?

You want to invest in youth initiatives that's a great thing. But why is the answer to take money from police. Obviously we saw in the last two weeks that we need police more than ever to protect all those that should have had the "youth initiatives ". How about first create initiatives and help minority groups, and once they are in control defund police...


So do they really want initiatives to help the new generation?  or they simply don't like any authority?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2020, 01:33:07 PM »
Their point is the pie is only so big. What part of the pie should go where? It is a very complex subject.
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2020, 02:14:11 PM »
Their point is the pie is only so big. What part of the pie should go where? It is a very complex subject.
Doesn't seem complex at all. Seems like all liberals agree that defunding police is the only option
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2020, 02:16:36 PM »
Putting more money into policing and earmarking it to sensitivity training and other training would seem like a far better answer than defunding...

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2020, 02:23:50 PM »
Doesn't seem complex at all. Seems like all liberals agree that defunding police is the only option
It is extremely complex trying to figure out where to spend the limited funds. Basically trial an error.
Would spending more in the inner city mean less crime? If so would that then mean you need less police? As you can see not that simple.
Left - defund police
Right - spend more on police
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2020, 05:34:15 PM »
it should go along with defund the criminals

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2020, 07:19:43 PM »
it should go along with defund the criminals
criminals fund themselves.... Maybe the police should get in bed with them to fund themselves as well... CIA style.
I'm sure that will go along way to solving racism

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2020, 07:31:26 PM »
there is zero evidence that color contributed to the behavior of the police officer, logically it makes sense to be explained without racism getting involved,
the suspect resisted arrest while he was training in 2 freshman, the level of chutzpah could explain his actions, while they were wrong its not necessarily racism

people get killed by law enforcement in every country in the world under any style of leadership (including when BA was in office)

those that are on the flag, they are missing the boat, no one is preventing you raising your voice but don't do it with a [sacred] flag/anthem
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2020, 08:44:05 PM »
those that are on the flag, they are missing the boat, no one is preventing you raising your voice but don't do it with a [sacred] flag/anthem
Here we go again. Divide the country at all cost!  ::)
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2020, 10:36:46 PM »
Here we go again. Divide the country at all cost!  ::)
The one who feels it inappropriate is the one dividing the country?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2020, 11:25:56 PM »
It is extremely complex trying to figure out where to spend the limited funds. Basically trial an error.
Would spending more in the inner city mean less crime? If so would that then mean you need less police? As you can see not that simple.
Left - defund police
Right - spend more on police
In theory it would definitely be far more effective to spend money on prevention rather than on police to deal with crime. Do you spend money on traffic control and driver safety initiatives or on top rate trauma departments and emergency first responders to deal with the victims? Well targeted initiatives such as vocational training and business mentoring, incentivization of effort and work ethic, efforts to create and preserve a stable family unit, and a host of other such initiatives would not only yield results, but there would be a multiplier effect as success begets success, and those successes become role models who can guide others on a path out of the ghetto.

However, if history is a guide, the money will pour into all the wrong places. A failing education system. “Community organizers” who make the most noise whom politicians can’t afford to offend. Bottomless pits of funding pandering to special interests. Welfare programs that perpetuate the misery of the inner city folks. Alternative lifestyle sensitivity training and safe sex education that pander to those with that agenda and do zero to put these folks on the path to upward mobility.

Couple that with a push to reduce policing and end quality of life enforcement and you end up with scary subway cars, drug and alcohol infested streets, lawlessness and violence, and a further working class and retail establishment flight from these neighborhoods, further perpetuating the cycle of despair.

How do we know this? Because this was done in the past in NYC, and those were the results. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.".

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2020, 11:27:32 PM »
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2020, 11:39:38 PM »
good point do this while we empty our prison system

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2020, 11:48:37 PM »
I c any believe this is even a discussion

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2020, 04:22:26 AM »
Police around the country can help make the decision easy....
Effective immediately they can go on strike. Let's see how the country fares without any police...

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Re: Defunding police is the answer to racism?
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2020, 04:23:24 AM »
Police around the country can help make the decision easy....
Effective immediately they can go on strike. Let's see how the country fares without any police...
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