Defunding police is the answer to racism?

[moko]

Definitiely true, as I have said many times in these forums, but did these self identify as religiously observant?

yes!

[biobook]

Another narrative gets destroyed.
No matter race, religion, color, nationality or anything else there is evil everywhere.

Yes, though I would put it a little differently, another narrative should be more nuanced.
We can't predict what an individual will be like just by knowing their race, religion, color, nationality, etc.
And we shouldn't assume that any one individual's behavior or attitudes provides some special insight into others of their race, religion, color, nationality etc.

[EliJelly]

yes!

Source? Anyway, were they?

[moko]

Source? Anyway, were they?

unfortunately Gentech is blocking all of my attempts at finding the page. I recall reading it in the book "Tough Jews"

[biobook]

Source? Anyway, were they?

I think that many were raised in poor, religiously-observant immigrant families, but I haven't read much (yet!) on this subject.  Though you should be aware that what is considered "religiously observant" in Lakewood or Brooklyn today is not identical to religious observance on the Lower East Side of NYC in the early 1900s (and probably not identical to religious observance at any time in history, but that's another story).

Here's one quote I just found:

Bugsy Siegel worked well with the Italians and brought in more Jews such as Louis Rush and Sam “Red” Levine, who kept kosher and wore a kippah. Levine’s orders were, “Never kill anyone on Shabbos unless it is absolutely necessary!”

A bookmaker’s Yizkor was held at a “pizza joint.” If the World Series fell on Yom Kippur, a parade of vans pulled up at halftime to make a shul for Kaddish in the basement.

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/ex-mobster-thrills-chabad-with-storied-past/

[CountValentine]

Bugsy Siegel worked well with the Italians and brought in more Jews such as Louis Rush and Sam “Red” Levine, who kept kosher and wore a kippah. Levine’s orders were, “Never kill anyone on Shabbos unless it is absolutely necessary!”

Know the Bugsy Siegel story well.

[YitzyS]

I think that many were raised in poor, religiously-observant immigrant families, but I haven't read much (yet!) on this subject.  Though you should be aware that what is considered "religiously observant" in Lakewood or Brooklyn today is not identical to religious observance on the Lower East Side of NYC in the early 1900s (and probably not identical to religious observance at any time in history, but that's another story).

Here's one quote I just found:

Bugsy Siegel worked well with the Italians and brought in more Jews such as Louis Rush and Sam “Red” Levine, who kept kosher and wore a kippah. Levine’s orders were, “Never kill anyone on Shabbos unless it is absolutely necessary!”

A bookmaker’s Yizkor was held at a “pizza joint.” If the World Series fell on Yom Kippur, a parade of vans pulled up at halftime to make a shul for Kaddish in the basement.

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/ex-mobster-thrills-chabad-with-storied-past/

Really interesting!

[Brian93]

Relevant
https://youtu.be/ieIse3miu18

[Mikes@Micro]

unfortunately Gentech is blocking all of my attempts at finding the page. I recall reading it in the book "Tough Jews"

Off topic but good book

[AussieMan]

Can we compromise and just defund parking cops👮🏻

[Dan]

Can we compromise and just defund parking cops👮🏻

Knowing NY, all cops will be transferred to parking cops.

[YitzyS]

https://twitter.com/YossiWolk/status/1270780712585695238

[EliJelly]

I think that many were raised in poor, religiously-observant immigrant families, but I haven't read much (yet!) on this subject.  Though you should be aware that what is considered "religiously observant" in Lakewood or Brooklyn today is not identical to religious observance on the Lower East Side of NYC in the early 1900s (and probably not identical to religious observance at any time in history, but that's another story).

Here's one quote I just found:

Bugsy Siegel worked well with the Italians and brought in more Jews such as Louis Rush and Sam “Red” Levine, who kept kosher and wore a kippah. Levine’s orders were, “Never kill anyone on Shabbos unless it is absolutely necessary!”

A bookmaker’s Yizkor was held at a “pizza joint.” If the World Series fell on Yom Kippur, a parade of vans pulled up at halftime to make a shul for Kaddish in the basement.

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/ex-mobster-thrills-chabad-with-storied-past/

Yep, exactly the religion observance that I guessed.

[S209]

https://twitter.com/YossiWolk/status/1270780712585695238

Is he saying the police are like our parents and we can’t function without them? I think libertarians are in agreement with the left on this

[CountValentine]

Is he saying the police are like our parents and we can’t function without them?

He is saying we are like kids. 

[YitzyS]

Is he saying the police are like our parents and we can’t function without them? I think libertarians are in agreement with the left on this

He is saying we are like kids. 

The answer to "a few bad apples" isn't to destroy the system and put our head in the ground about all the consequences.

[Joeymc]

Disclaimer: I have not been following this thread, just thought this would be the right thread for this.

[moko]

Disclaimer: I have not been following this thread, just thought this would be the right thread for this.

Can we compromise and just defund parking cops👮🏻

Knowing NY, all cops will be transferred to parking cops.

[AsherO]

Can we compromise and just defund parking cops👮🏻

Parking cops aren’t a cost bucket, they’re a revenue firehose.

[yesitsme]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1870157/watch-this-black-leaders-meet-with-trump-see-what-one-participant-said.html