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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2020, 11:10:59 PM »
According to this article the answer is yes
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2020, 11:11:46 PM »
Wasn't it in a separate sentence and also mentioned a man next?
She said “Even some Congresswomen, notably Rashida Tlaib and notably Biden advisor AOC”...
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2020, 11:16:44 PM »
She said “Even some Congresswomen, notably Rashida Tlaib and notably Biden advisor AOC”...
You put an "and" in there.  ;)
ETA: Here is the quote from FOX news. She mentioned three people and one was a man. Each side is going to put their spin on it.
“The president is appalled by the ‘defund the police’ movement,” McEnany said in the full quote. “The fact that you have sitting congresswomen wanting to defund the police-- notably Rashida Tlaib, notably Biden adviser Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, former Clinton and Eric Holder spokesperson Brian Fallon wanting to defund our police across this country, it is extraordinary.”
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
You put an "and" in there.  ;)
You’re right, even better. This is what she said: “Even some Congresswomen, notably Rashida Tlaib, notably Biden advisor AOC”...
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2020, 11:31:31 PM »
You’re right, even better. This is what she said: “Even some Congresswomen, notably Rashida Tlaib, notably Biden advisor AOC”...
See my edit.  ;)
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2020, 11:34:40 PM »
See my edit.  ;)
Do me a favor. She knew she was a congresswoman and she referred to her as such, and was using the term Biden Advisor to tar her. This is race-baiting at its worst. I don’t think you believe this was racist. You’re trolling.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2020, 11:38:21 PM »
Do me a favor. She knew she was a congresswoman and she referred to her as such, and was using the term Biden Advisor to tar her. This is race-baiting at its worst. I don’t think you believe this was racist. You’re trolling.
I am just getting the facts out there. Each side will put there slant/spin on it.
I didn't see anything racist even if you spin it that she didn't call her a congresswomen.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2020, 11:48:44 PM »
Good figures. Lets take the same town but say they had 500 police officers. Wouldn't that give them a better chance to make an arrest?
These figures stand even in individual jurisdictions that have different communities.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2020, 11:49:10 PM »
Is this racist? https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1270061346470707201
The press secretary was clearly saying that she is a Biden adviser to tie her to Biden. She is making everything about race. Is that racist?

ETA: You can see the actual clip here. It's about 35 seconds in. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4883558/white-house-president-appalled-defund-police-campaign-opposes-nfl-players-kneeling
AOC is egregiously in the wrong here. No 2 ways about it.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2020, 11:52:52 PM »
These figures stand even in individual jurisdictions that have different communities.
You saying blacks in affluent communities are committing crimes at the same rate as blacks in poor neighborhoods?
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2020, 12:21:05 AM »


You have to understand what goes into the numbers to make sure it is a true reflection.
Lets take one example. A town of 50k and 5k police (just picked figures). Another town of 50k and 1k police. If a burglary was committed in both towns in which town do you think would have a better chance for an arrest?

If both populations had equal propensity to crime, town A should show a higher PROPORTION of crime resulting in arrest, but the police presence should also deter the overall crime rate.

Not clear to me which factor is of greater magnitude with respect to the rate of arrests.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2020, 12:29:34 AM »
Another thing to consider is your race. The overwhelming amount of black crime is black on black. So if you are white you should be worried about the white kids not black kids.  ;)
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2020, 12:45:34 AM »
Another thing to consider is your race. The overwhelming amount of black crime is black on black. So if you are white you should be worried about the white kids not black kids.  ;)
Robbery   
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than vice versa.[75][76]

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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #94 on: June 09, 2020, 01:10:06 AM »
Do me a favor. She knew she was a congresswoman and she referred to her as such, and was using the term Biden Advisor to tar him. This is race-baiting at its worst. I don’t think you believe this was racist. You’re trolling.
FTFY. The press secretary doesn't care about AOC. She cares about Biden.

https://twitter.com/YossiWolk/status/1270173759320788993

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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #95 on: June 09, 2020, 01:11:29 AM »
I'm looking at this again, and I think that AOC didn't even watch the video. She's just responding to the tweet, and is missing all the context. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1270061346470707201

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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #96 on: June 09, 2020, 02:37:17 AM »
They never factor in that those who go to bars smoke at a higher rate than the general public.
this is pure racism and bigotry or whatever against bar goers. do u have any source of statistical value to back up this horrible accusation?

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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #97 on: June 09, 2020, 08:13:25 AM »

Did you miss this stat? I love how you cherry pick. I wonder why that is, NOT!
Homicide:
Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.[63][64][65]

Do we have a white on white homicide problem?
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #98 on: June 09, 2020, 11:25:28 AM »
You saying blacks in affluent communities are committing crimes at the same rate as blacks in poor neighborhoods?
No I am saying that in jurisdictions which contain more than one community will find that much more crime is in the black community than in the white community. This correlates greatly to poor vs rich community as well. I do think that much of the disparity is more due to the community they are in than the individuals themselves. That still shows that it is not simply because there are more police there. The additional police presence is an effect not a cause.
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Re: Is everyone really a racist?
« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2020, 11:32:58 AM »
No I am saying that in jurisdictions which contain more than one community will find that much more crime is in the black community than in the white community. This correlates greatly to poor vs rich community as well. I do think that much of the disparity is more due to the community they are in than the individuals themselves. That still shows that it is not simply because there are more police there. The additional police presence is an effect not a cause.
At least someone understands there is more than just the raw numbers.
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