Author Topic: Are we going too far? (Read 219282 times)

I'm not a historian, but I think that not all of them are equal. I can hear the argument that some should be removed. But just because a guy hated Jews doesn't mean his statue should be removed. But if someone did more than just say things, there's more reason to take it down.

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #171 on:** June 23, 2020, 04:57:35 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on June 23, 2020, 04:54:43 PM

I'm not a historian, but I think that not all of them are equal. I can hear the argument that some should be removed. But just because a guy hated Jews doesn't mean his statue should be removed. But if someone did more than just say things, there's more reason to take it down.

How about the Arch of Titus?

YitzyS · « **Reply #172 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:00:58 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on June 23, 2020, 04:57:35 PM

How about the Arch of Titus?

Down.

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #173 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:04:55 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on June 23, 2020, 05:00:58 PM

Down.

I disagree.

justaregularguy · « **Reply #174 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:10:31 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on June 23, 2020, 05:04:55 PM

I disagree.

I think you might agree if you were alive during that time.

zh cohen · « **Reply #175 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:14:50 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on June 23, 2020, 04:46:21 PM

Are you in favor of removing them?

Quote from: YitzyS on June 23, 2020, 04:54:43 PM

I'm not a historian, but I think that not all of them are equal. I can hear the argument that some should be removed. But just because a guy hated Jews doesn't mean his statue should be removed. But if someone did more than just say things, there's more reason to take it down.

I would say that the distinction should be based on why statues are being made for them. If the actions they are being honored for are bad, I think they should be taken down. If, however, they are being honored for good that they did, I don't think they should be torn down because of their (unrelated) sins.

For example, I think a statue of Robert E. Lee at West Point (assuming they have statues of all their Superintendents) is fine in my eyes. That same statue at the South Carolina state house is inappropriate.

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #176 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:17:02 PM »

Quote from: justaregularguy on June 23, 2020, 05:10:31 PM

I think you might agree if you were alive during that time.

But we aren't.

justaregularguy · « **Reply #177 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:19:54 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on June 23, 2020, 05:17:02 PM

But we aren't.

no, the point is you would feel the distain for it more bc its closer, but there are plenty of people who still feel distain much later in history

for context, you probably wouldnt agree to a statue of Hitler ym's bc its closer to us-but maybe you actually would bc u werent around then (were you?

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YitzyS · « **Reply #178 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:22:52 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on June 23, 2020, 05:04:55 PM

I disagree.

Hypothetically, do you think statues of Hitler should be allowed to stand in 2,000 years?

justaregularguy · « **Reply #179 on:** June 23, 2020, 05:27:36 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on June 23, 2020, 05:22:52 PM

Hypothetically, do you think statues of Hitler should be allowed to stand in 2,000 years?

Quote from: justaregularguy on June 23, 2020, 05:19:54 PM

no, the point is you would feel the distain for it more bc its closer, but there are plenty of people who still feel distain much later in history

for context, you probably wouldnt agree to a statue of Hitler ym's bc its closer to us-but maybe you actually would bc u werent around then (were you? )

great point!