Are we going too far?

[aygart]

True, but fundamentally if you are entitled to self determine what's right and what's wrong, they have the same right. Many people will behave ridiculously as a result of that, but we like it because it allows us to behave in a way we think is right.

In terms of employment specifically there are many laws in place (many of which I think are actually unfair)

So there is nothing at all wrong with people complaining when they feel the line is drawn too tight.

[PlatinumGuy]

So there is nothing at all wrong with people complaining when they feel the line is drawn too tight.

If their complaint is that they think Disney should think differently, they're perfectly entitled.

If their complaint is that Disney shouldn't be allowed to think wrongly, they're fundamentally wrong.

If you think Reform Jews are believing incorrectly, good for you.

If you think Reform Jews shouldn't be allowed by the government to believe incorrectly, you're fundamentally wrong.

Now, do you not think a survey here would show 50%+ of people think Twitter/Disney etc are acting illegally?

[aygart]

Now, do you not think a survey here would show 50%+ of people think Twitter/Disney etc are acting illegally?

That is simple ignorance.

[PlatinumGuy]

That is simple ignorance.

Yup, and that ignorance is what I'm trying to argue with.

You'll notice a poster here quickly reversed his position from 'nobody should be shunned' to 'everybody can be shunned and I'm happy I can shun the shunners'

[aygart]

Yup, and that ignorance is what I'm trying to argue with.

You'll notice a poster here quickly reversed his position from 'nobody should be shunned' to 'everybody can be shunned and I'm happy I can shun the shunners'

I don't see any such thing.

[PlatinumGuy]

I don't see any such thing.

Here:

No. Unlike the far left, I (as well as the majority of America IMO) believe that a person should not be shunned because of his ideas.

Yes, companies are private and they can fire whoever they want. But we hope the costumers have a healthy-enough moral compass to know when to go along with it and when to pushback

(Not trying to shame him, I respect him for modifying his position as a result of evolving understanding)

[Yehuda57]

If their complaint is that Disney shouldn't be allowed to think wrongly, they're fundamentally wrong.

Did a single person make this claim?

[PlatinumGuy]

Did a single person make this claim?

Explicitly in this thread? No. Did I say somebody did?

[aygart]

Here:

(Not trying to shame him, I respect him for modifying his position as a result of evolving understanding)

I think you were "going too far" in what he meant to say in the first place.

[PlatinumGuy]

I think you were "going too far" in what he meant to say in the first place.

So basically we now pretty much agree, and we're arguing if somebody had a הווא אמינא differently...

[Yehuda57]

Explicitly in this thread? No. Did I say somebody did?

You have consistently argued that point when no one has made that claim, even after that was pointed out to you multiple times

[PlatinumGuy]

You have consistently argued that point when no one has made that claim, even after that was pointed out to you multiple times

So why does it bother you so much? Just agree with it and move on.

[yuneeq]

If their complaint is that they think Disney shouldn't redefine and belittle anti-semitism, they're perfectly entitled.

FTFY
It's not just the employee that's being harmed, every Jew is harmed by such a firing and should call out Disney for it.

[jj1000]

Same employer same show... One of these got someone fired, can you spot the difference?

[Jellybelly]

I was scrolling up looking at the images, trying to guess who posted it.
 I was sure it @PlatinumGuy , until I read the whole post

[Yehuda57]

Same employer same show... One of these got someone fired, can you spot the difference?

Not to mention, the picture is from 2014, not 2018

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1360338345180745730

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1360730567298281473

Does anybody here think it is fair for the government to prohibit a rape victim from getting an early term abortion even by traveling to another state? Not that I think it matters here but I am pretty sure it is Halachichally permissible according to all major opinions.

Or can we agree this is clearly a case of right wing politicians going too far to impose Christian values?

[AsherO]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1360730567298281473

Does anybody here think it is fair for the government to prohibit a rape victim from getting an early term abortion even by traveling to another state? Not that I think it matters here but I am pretty sure it is Halachichally permissible according to all major opinions.

Or can we agree this is clearly a case of right wing politicians going too far to impose Christian values?

What’s more horrible than the blanket ban on abortions (that would exclude these extreme situations) is that the perpetrator of sexual violence can still hold power over their victim beyond the actual event. It’s one thing for the government to make such a decision, morality and all, and another for handing that power over to a despicable criminal.

[YitzyS]

Same employer same show... One of these got someone fired, can you spot the difference?

BTW Daily Wire hired her to make a film for them.