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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #620 on: March 03, 2021, 03:30:04 PM »
Quote from: skyguy918 on March 03, 2021, 02:53:47 PM
More like "Hey [insert name of politician I don't like], stop cancelling!"Don't be lazy. Read Across America Day is an NEA initiative. The NEA had a contract with Dr Seuss Enterprises partnering for Read Across America Day, which has since expired. The proclamation was drafted by the Dept of Ed, likely in conjunction with the NEA - so it's not surprising that they left out Dr Seuss. All of which is to say that Dr Seuss was not mentioned in this year's proclamation, and that does not equate to Biden cancelling Dr Seuss in any way shape or form.
There is a claim going around (unverified by myself) that it was removed yesterday.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #621 on: March 03, 2021, 04:16:42 PM »
Quote from: aygart on March 03, 2021, 03:30:04 PM
There is a claim going around (unverified by myself) that it was removed yesterday.
You mean someone is claiming it was posted on 3/1 (the date listed on the proclamation) with reference to Dr Suess and then edited on 3/2 (the actual date of Read Across America day) to remove those references?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #622 on: March 03, 2021, 04:20:01 PM »
Quote from: skyguy918 on March 03, 2021, 04:16:42 PM
You mean someone is claiming it was posted on 3/1 (the date listed on the proclamation) with reference to Dr Suess and then edited on 3/2 (the actual date of Read Across America day) to remove those references?
It was first posted on Mar 1? Maybe I misunderstood the claim. As I wrote, I did not vet the claim.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #623 on: March 03, 2021, 08:35:01 PM »
Quote from: skyguy918 on March 03, 2021, 02:53:47 PM
More like "Hey [insert name of politician I don't like], stop cancelling!"Don't be lazy. Read Across America Day is an NEA initiative. The NEA had a contract with Dr Seuss Enterprises partnering for Read Across America Day, which has since expired. The proclamation was drafted by the Dept of Ed, likely in conjunction with the NEA - so it's not surprising that they left out Dr Seuss. All of which is to say that Dr Seuss was not mentioned in this year's proclamation, and that does not equate to Biden cancelling Dr Seuss in any way shape or form.

So Biden is not responsible for the content of a Proclamation he signed, because he just signed what his Department of Education told him to sign?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #624 on: March 03, 2021, 09:10:48 PM »
Quote from: aygart on March 03, 2021, 03:29:00 PM
Nope that is free speech. Nothing to do with markets.

How can you have a free market without free speech about the market?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #625 on: March 03, 2021, 09:16:19 PM »
Quote from: Ver hut gazugt on March 03, 2021, 09:10:48 PM
How can you have a free market without free speech about the market?
It's silly nitpicking but it's also wrong, a free market includes the freedom of market participants to speak about each other.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #626 on: March 03, 2021, 11:25:57 PM »
« Last Edit: March 03, 2021, 11:42:33 PM by PlatinumGuy »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #627 on: March 03, 2021, 11:42:28 PM »
Quote from: zh cohen on March 03, 2021, 08:35:01 PM
So Biden is not responsible for the content of a Proclamation he signed, because he just signed what his Department of Education told him to sign?
Gimme a break - 'Biden is responsible for the proclamation he signed' does not mean 'Biden exclude[d] mention of Dr. Seuss' - and it certainly doesn't mean Biden canceled Dr Seuss. Not to mention the fact that it certainly doesn't mean Kamala Harris canceled Dr Seuss, which was the inference of the post I initially replied to. There is nothing objectionable about what he signed. The 'objection' is that what he signed left something out. Do you really think that they put it in front of Biden to sign, and he said "hold up, why is Dr Seuss not mentioned", and they explained that he's cancelled, and Biden said good call let's keep him out of it? This is such silliness, it's really sad to see it parroted here - there's plenty of real things to deal with.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #628 on: March 03, 2021, 11:44:29 PM »
Quote from: skyguy918 on March 03, 2021, 11:42:28 PM
This is such silliness, it's really sad to see it parroted here - there's plenty of real things to deal with.

That what the GOP and Fox resort to when they have to avoid discussing a bill that 77% of Americans and 59% of Repbulicns support

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1367330406417260546
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #629 on: March 04, 2021, 08:16:36 AM »
Quote from: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2021, 11:44:29 PM
That what the GOP and Fox resort to when they have to avoid discussing a bill that 77% of Americans and 59% of Repbulicns support

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1367330406417260546
It’s all fun and games until you or something you believe in gets canceled
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #630 on: March 04, 2021, 08:27:49 AM »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #631 on: March 04, 2021, 09:18:45 AM »
Quote from: jj1000 on March 04, 2021, 08:27:49 AM
Let Cruz know that was actually DD ;)

https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/dr-seusss-board-books-2-98-amazon/
Lol - except for the part where there's only 1 book that's on both the top 10 and your post.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #632 on: March 04, 2021, 09:21:56 AM »
Quote from: skyguy918 on March 04, 2021, 09:18:45 AM
Lol - except for the part where there's only 1 book that's on both the top 10 and your post.
Lol, true, didn't look that closely.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #633 on: March 04, 2021, 09:46:47 AM »
Quote from: jj1000 on March 04, 2021, 08:27:49 AM
Let Cruz know that was actually DD ;)

https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/your-favorite-13-dr-seuss-stories-book-for-10-99-from-amazon/
FTFY

Thanks to that deal, I now own three of the six canceled books.

Unfortunately, the book is not in great condition anymore, otherwise I would consider selling it for about $250, which is what it seems to be going for...
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #634 on: March 04, 2021, 10:21:26 AM »
Quote from: YitzyS on March 04, 2021, 09:46:47 AM
FTFY

Thanks to that deal, I now own three of the six canceled books.

Unfortunately, the book is not in great condition anymore, otherwise I would consider selling it for about $250, which is what it seems to be going for...
If it doesn't get taken down by eBay as offensive material.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #635 on: March 04, 2021, 11:46:37 AM »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #636 on: March 04, 2021, 12:38:14 PM »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #637 on: March 04, 2021, 01:38:27 PM »
Quote from: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
It's silly nitpicking but it's also wrong, a free market includes the freedom of market participants to speak about each other.

Not sure if I am understanding you correctly. You seem to be making my point and at the same time saying I am wrong.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #638 on: March 04, 2021, 01:59:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1367549131347132418

Quote from: Ver hut gazugt on March 04, 2021, 01:38:27 PM
Not sure if I am understanding you correctly. You seem to be making my point and at the same time saying I am wrong.
I said the criticism of your post was wrong
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #639 on: March 04, 2021, 04:07:01 PM »
Quote from: YitzyS on March 04, 2021, 12:38:14 PM
AND...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

FYI - Mein Kampf is very much still available to purchase on Ebay..

Glad they have their priorities straightened out.
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