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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #690 on: April 08, 2021, 10:36:52 AM »
More like every half a year you notice one that was added. It’s already LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual).
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #691 on: April 08, 2021, 10:54:23 AM »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #692 on: April 08, 2021, 10:59:41 AM »
More like every half a year you notice one that was added. It’s already LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual).

I think instead of vomiting an alphabet soup of letters for people who deserve special privileges, we should just adopt NASWM (not a straight white male)

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #693 on: April 08, 2021, 11:25:14 AM »
I think instead of vomiting an alphabet soup of letters for people who deserve special privileges, we should just adopt NASWM (not a straight white male)

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #694 on: April 08, 2021, 11:38:48 AM »
I think instead of vomiting an alphabet soup of letters for people who deserve special privileges, we should just adopt NASWM (not a straight white male)
Would you consider serving in the military openly a 'special privilege'?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #695 on: April 08, 2021, 12:09:40 PM »
I think instead of vomiting an alphabet soup of letters for people who deserve special privileges, we should just adopt NASWM (not a straight white male)
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #696 on: April 08, 2021, 12:13:17 PM »
Would you consider serving in the military openly a 'special privilege'?
Which one has to hide that they are in the military?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #697 on: April 08, 2021, 01:18:55 PM »
Which one has to hide that they are in the military?
Gays until Obama repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell and trans under Trump until Biden repealed it.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #698 on: April 08, 2021, 01:20:51 PM »
Gays until Obama repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell and trans under Trump until Biden repealed it.
They didn't have to hide that they were in the military. They needed to hide certain behaviors.
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Re: Are we going too far?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #700 on: April 08, 2021, 01:33:17 PM »
They didn't have to hide that they were in the military. They needed to hide certain behaviors.
That’s called not serving openly, which is what I said.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #701 on: April 08, 2021, 01:38:22 PM »
That’s called not serving openly, which is what I said.
I was somewhat picking on your wording, but making a point. They absolutely can serve openly. They cannot serve while openly exhibiting some behaviors. There is no inherent privilege of exhibiting any behavior at all in the military. There are many behaviors one may need to hide while in the military.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #702 on: April 08, 2021, 05:30:57 PM »
Would you consider serving in the military openly a 'special privilege'?
Specifically regarding Trans and Questioning and all the other ones relating to gender dysphoria I don't think it's discriminatory that they can't serve. Just like diagnosed bi-polar or the like can't. It's not in anyone's good. I understand why people argue that varied sexual orientation is a normal thing. Normalizing gender dysphoria is beyond me.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #703 on: April 08, 2021, 06:21:32 PM »
Specifically regarding Trans and Questioning and all the other ones relating to gender dysphoria I don't think it's discriminatory that they can't serve. Just like diagnosed bi-polar or the like can't. It's not in anyone's good. I understand why people argue that varied sexual orientation is a normal thing. Normalizing gender dysphoria is beyond me.
Regardless of whether it’s fair or not, you can’t call being treated equally a ‘special privilege’

I was somewhat picking on your wording, but making a point. They absolutely can serve openly. They cannot serve while openly exhibiting some behaviors. There is no inherent privilege of exhibiting any behavior at all in the military. There are many behaviors one may need to hide while in the military.
So let’s phrase it differently. For LGBTs in the military to be able to have a public love life is equality, not ‘special privilege’.

The vast majority of LGBT rights aren’t giving them anything special
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #704 on: April 08, 2021, 06:28:33 PM »
The vast majority of LGBT rights aren’t giving them anything special

It grants them rights for a certain class of “self-expression” where they aren’t subject to standard military discipline. If a superior comments on anything they can cry discrimination.