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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #281 on: July 08, 2020, 02:30:15 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but that letter seems to speak out for free speech and against shaming. Why are these guys regretting signing?

Cant read past the NYT paywall.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #282 on: July 08, 2020, 02:43:23 PM »
I think as we talk about double standards, this becomes an important thing for both sides to acknowledge:

Any examples of Trump canceling someone? The only possible one that I can think of is Colin Kaepernick

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #283 on: July 08, 2020, 04:35:07 PM »
Any examples of Trump canceling someone? The only possible one that I can think of is Colin Kaepernick

Are you serious? The guy has literally made "fake news" a universally recognized dismissal of anything anyone doesn't agree with.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #284 on: July 08, 2020, 05:00:06 PM »
Are you serious? The guy has literally made "fake news" a universally recognized dismissal of anything anyone doesn't agree with.

Apparently we have a different definition of "Canceling".

According to Wikipedia, canceling is

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a form of boycott in which an individual, who has shared a questionable or controversial opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be offensive recorded on social media, is "canceled"; they are ostracized and shunned by former friends, followers and supporters alike, leading to declines in any careers and fanbase the individual may have at any given time.

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #285 on: July 08, 2020, 05:21:01 PM »
Apparently we have a different definition of "Canceling".

According to Wikipedia, canceling is

You're right. I can't think of any individuals, any businesses, or any media outlets that fit the description of being cancelled by Trump.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #286 on: July 08, 2020, 05:43:16 PM »
You're right. I can't think of any individuals, any businesses, or any media outlets that fit the description of being cancelled by Trump.
Did you forget the sarcasm emoji?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #287 on: July 08, 2020, 06:03:52 PM »
Did you forget the sarcasm emoji?

 Do you know of any examples? Mind sharing?

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #288 on: July 08, 2020, 06:21:05 PM »
Do you know of any examples? Mind sharing?
He has trouble sometimes when it comes to producing facts
The latest deflection is usually that he doesnít want to go in circles for 100 pages

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #289 on: July 08, 2020, 06:42:25 PM »
Do you know of any examples? Mind sharing?
Anyone that left the administration and criticized Trump. Bolton would be the latest one.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #290 on: July 08, 2020, 06:44:49 PM »
He has trouble sometimes when it comes to producing facts
The latest deflection is usually that he doesnít want to go in circles for 100 pages
You want to go around in circles. You can do that on your own from now on. If you want to see how to have an honest discussion look at AJK posts.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #291 on: July 08, 2020, 07:03:17 PM »
Anyone that left the administration and criticized Trump. Bolton would be the latest one.
Iím not sure I have this new cancel phrase down pat, please explain who canceled who

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #292 on: July 08, 2020, 07:05:07 PM »
Iím not sure I have this new cancel phrase down pat, please explain who canceled who
Trump, right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers tried to cancel Bolton.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #293 on: July 08, 2020, 07:06:56 PM »
Trump, right wing and Kool-Aid drinkers tried to cancel Bolton.
Didnít he cancel them first?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #294 on: July 08, 2020, 07:09:01 PM »
Didnít he cancel them first?
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You want to go around in circles. You can do that on your own from now on.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #295 on: July 08, 2020, 07:10:43 PM »
:P
Deflection!
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #296 on: July 08, 2020, 07:12:31 PM »
Deflection!
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #298 on: July 08, 2020, 08:18:27 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/us/hate-crime-charges-black-lives-matter-mural-painted-over-trnd/

Hate crime?
Don't know but the idiots are trying to stay within the lines. So it will be BLM in black instead of yellow.  :)
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #299 on: July 10, 2020, 01:48:04 PM »
https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/

Surprised there is no discussion of the irony of Yglesias having been attacked for signing on the same letter as Rowling.

Meanwhile in a letter responding to this one

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Not only is there no significant evidence of inappropriate censure linking these instances, itís unclear what examples the authors, some of whom are considered writing icons, are even drawing from to make their point.

Also in the same letter

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Many signatories on our list noted their institutional affiliation but not their name, fearful of professional retaliation. It is a sad fact, and in part why we wrote the letter.
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