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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #320 on: July 15, 2020, 11:58:31 AM »
From The Smithsonian
https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness



WT*? I don't think I've ever seen a more racist thing in my life!

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #321 on: July 15, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »
I don't think I've ever seen a more racist thing in my life!
Trump, is that you?  :)
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #322 on: July 15, 2020, 12:28:54 PM »
From The Smithsonian
https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness
Where's the corresponding one for aspects and assumptions for blackness in the US?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #323 on: July 15, 2020, 12:37:50 PM »
Not speaking about descendants of African slaves, the majority of immigrant people of color come specifically to take advantage of these attitudes.
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #324 on: July 15, 2020, 01:34:21 PM »
Trump, is that you?  :)

Do you agree that saying that Hard work, objective thinking, delayed gratification and Mastering/controlling ones nature are white things (and the inference that black people don't believe in those things) is a extremely racist statement?

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #325 on: July 15, 2020, 01:57:35 PM »
Do you agree that saying that Hard work, objective thinking, delayed gratification and Mastering/controlling ones nature are white things (and the inference that black people don't believe in those things) is a extremely racist statement?
It was a joke playing off Trumps "I am the least racist person in the world".
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #326 on: July 15, 2020, 03:42:43 PM »
if I said half of these (especially reversed) I'd be racist


Like this? Is this what they are trying to say?(FTR, these are not my personal beliefs but rather the flip side of what they are saying)


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ASPECTS & ASSUMPTIONS OF BLACK CULTURE IN THE  UNITED STATES
TALKING ABOUT RACE I NMAAHC



Less Individualism• The individual is not the primary unit • Less Self-reliance • Independence & autonomy not highly valued or rewarded • Individuals assumed not to have control of their environment, "You don’t get what you deserve"


Unstructured Family• No nuclear family with father and mother • No husband as breadwinner and head of household • Mother is homemaker, breadwinner, and insubordinate to the husband • Children should be dependent


No Emphasis on Scientific Method • Unobjective, irrational non-linear thinking • No cause and effect relationships • No quantitative emphasis


Work Ethic • Hard work is irrelevant to success • Play before work • "If you didn't meet your goals, it has nothing to do with you"


Status, Power & Authority • Wealth is not worth • Your job isn’t who you are • Don’t respect authority • Little value on ownership of goods, space, property


Future Orientation• Don’t plan for future • Instant gratification • Progress doesn’t matter • "Tomorrow won’t be better"


Time• Don’t follow rigid time schedules • Time has little value


Justice• Based on _______(no?) law • Disregard property & entitlement • Intent is irrelevant


Competition• Don’t make sure to be #1 • No winner/losers • No Action Orientation • Don’t Win at all costs • Be controlled by nature • "do nothing" about a situation • no Aggressiveness and Extroversion • No Decision-Making • Minority rules (when Whites have power)


Communication• "Ebonics" rules • No written tradition • Don’t avoid conflict, intimacy • show emotion • discuss personal life • Don’t be polite

WT*? I don't think I've ever seen a more racist thing in my life!
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #327 on: July 16, 2020, 03:41:31 AM »
Check this out. (I don't remember where on Twitter I found it.)
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #331 on: July 16, 2020, 09:26:26 PM »
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #332 on: July 16, 2020, 09:30:35 PM »
Cancel culture works!  :)
Or, the Smithsonian shouldn't be using our tax dollars to publish things that would make David Duke blush?
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #333 on: July 16, 2020, 09:32:01 PM »
Or, the Smithsonian shouldn't be using our tax dollars to publish things that would make David Duke blush?
...or both!  ;)
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #335 on: July 16, 2020, 10:27:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/NMAAHC/status/1283862959513632768

So they took down the chart, but not the lesson plan that chart was representing.

I guess it's not true that
Cancel culture works!  :)
It just makes racists hide a bit better...

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #337 on: July 19, 2020, 03:03:56 PM »
Quote or engagement  equals full throated endorsement and vote!
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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #338 on: July 19, 2020, 03:05:14 PM »
Legit?
Or is that only the canadian version?
Regular American version.

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Re: Are we going too far?
« Reply #339 on: July 19, 2020, 10:51:34 PM »
what is this inclusive or racist?

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