What Are You Listening To

[ExGingi]

The Paytan did not write it out of order.

The Mishnah says: כָּל מַעֲשֵׂה יוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים הָאָמוּר עַל הַסֵּדֶר, אִם הִקְדִּים מַעֲשֶׂה לַחֲבֵרוֹ, לֹא עָשָׂה כְלוּם. The order is very specific, and can't be changed.

Exactly. The song has ZERO correlation to the actual Seder Avoda. It's borrowing phrases and using them for a different message.

I couldn't find a text version of Sefardi nusach, but from the audio it sounds like it's not very different than the Ashkenazi nushach.

Here are the song stanzas:

NOT FROM AVODA:

נִּכְנַס ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שׁנִּכְנַס
וְעָמַד ‬בְּמָקוֹם ‬שֶעָמַד
רָחַץ ‬יָדָיו ‬רַגְלָיו
טָבַל ‬עָלָה ‬וְנִסְתַּפַּג
בָּא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶהוּא ‬בָּא
וְהָלַךְ⁠ ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶהָלַךְ⁠
פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬הַחֹל
לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬לָבָן
 ‬
FROM AVODA (modified):

[קדם־פזמון]
וְכָךְ⁠ ‬הָיָה ‬אוֹמֵר
אָנָּא ‬ה '‬כַּפֵּר ‬לַחֲטָאִים ‬לַעֲווֹנוֹת ‬וְלַפְּשָעִים
שֶחָטָאתִי ‬לְפָנֶיךָ⁠ ‬אֲנִי ‬וּבֵיתִי

NOT FROM AVODA (and actually part of the main idea/theme of the song):

וְאִם ‬אָדָם ‬הָיָה ‬יָכוֹל ‬לִזְכֹּר
אֶת ‬הַפְּגָמִים ‬אֶת ‬הַחֶסְרוֹנוֹת
אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הַפְּשָעִים ‬אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הָעֲווֹנוֹת
בֶּטַח ‬כָּךְ⁠ ‬הָיָה ‬מוֹנֶה
אַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וְאַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וּשְתַּיִם
אַחַת ‬וְשָלוֹשׁ⁠ ‬אַחַת ‬וְאַרְבַּע ‬אַחַת ‬וְחָמֵשׁ⁠
יָשָר ‬הָיָה ‬מִתְיָאֵשׁ⁠
כִּי ‬לֹא ‬יָכוֹל ‬הָיָה ‬לָשֵׂאת
אֶת ‬הַמְּרִירות ,‬הַחֵטְא
אֶת ‬הַבּוּשָה, ‬ אֶת ‬הַפִסְפוּס
אֶת ‬הַהֶפְסֵד

FROM AVODA (modified):
][פזמון]
וְהַכֹּהֲנִים ‬וְהָעָם ‬הָעוֹמְדִים ‬בָּעֲזָרָה
כְּשֶהָיוּ⁠ ‬שׁוֹמְעִים ‬אֶת ‬שֵם ‬ה' ‬הַמְפֹרָשׁ⁠
יוֹצֵא ‬מִפִּי ‬כֹּהֵן ‬גָּדוֹל
הָיוּ⁠ ‬כּוֹרְעִים ‬מִשְתַּחֲוִים ‬וְנוֹפְלִים ‬עַל ‬פְּנֵיהֶם
בָּרוּךְ⁠ ‬שֵם ‬כְּבוֹד ‬מַלְכוּתוֹ⁠ ‬לְעוֹלָם ‬וָעֶד

[מעבר אינסטרומנטלי]
NOT FROM AVODA:
['בית ב]
פָּסַע ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶפָּסַע
פָּנָיו ‬לַקֹּדֶשׁ⁠ ‬אֲחוֹרָיו ‬לַהֵיכַל
בְּלֹא ‬רְבָב ‬הָיוּ⁠ ‬שָוִים ‬פִּיו ‬וּמַעֲשָׂיו
בָּא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶהוּא ‬בָּא
וְהָלַךְ⁠ ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶהָלַךְ⁠
פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬לָבָן
לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬זָהָב

FROM AVODA (modified):
[קדם־פזמון]
וְכָךְ⁠ ‬הָיָה ‬אוֹמֵר
אָנָּא ‬ה ,'‬כַּפֵּר ‬לַחֲטָאִים ‬לַעֲווֹנוֹת ‬וְלַפְּשָעִים
שֶחָטָאתִי ‬לְפָנֶיךָ⁠ ‬אֲנִי ‬וּבֵיתִי

NOT FROM AVODA: (and actually part of the main idea/theme of the song)
וְאִם ‬אָדָם ‬הָיָה ‬יָכוֹל ‬לִזְכֹּר
אֶת ‬הַחֲסָדִים ‬אֶת ‬הַטּוֹבוֹת
אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הָרַחֲמִים ‬אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הַיְשׁוּעוֹת
בֶּטַח ‬כָּךְ⁠ ‬הָיָה ‬מוֹנֶה
אַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וְאַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וּשְתַּיִם
אַחַת ‬מֵאֶלֶף ‬אַלְפֵי ‬אֲלָפִים ‬וְרֹב ‬רִבֵּי ‬רְבָבוֹת
נִסִּים ‬נִפְלָאוֹת
שֶעָשִׂיתָ⁠ ‬עִמָּנוּ⁠
יָמִים ‬וְלֵילוֹת

FROM AVODA (modified):

[פזמון]
וְהַכֹּהֲנִים ‬וְהָעָם ‬הָעוֹמְדִים ‬בָּעֲזָרָה
כְּשֶהָיוּ⁠ ‬שׁוֹמְעִים ‬אֶת ‬שֵם ‬ה' ‬הַמְפֹרָשׁ⁠
יוֹצֵא ‬מִפִּי ‬כֹּהֵן ‬גָּדוֹל
הָיוּ⁠ ‬כּוֹרְעִים ‬מִשְתַּחֲוִים ‬וְנוֹפְלִים ‬עַל ‬פְּנֵיהֶם
בָּרוּךְ⁠ ‬שֵם ‬כְּבוֹד ‬מַלְכוּתוֹ⁠ ‬לְעוֹלָם ‬וָעֶד

[מעבר אינסטרומנטלי]

NOT FROM AVODA:

['בית ג]
יָצָא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶיָּצָא
וְרָעַד ‬בְּמָקוֹם ‬שֶעָמַד

FROM AVODA (modified):
פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬זָהָב
לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬עַצְמוֹ⁠
וְכָל ‬הָעָם ‬וְהַכֹּהֲנִים
הָיוּ⁠ ‬מְלַוִּים ‬אוֹתוֹ⁠ ‬לְבֵיתוֹ⁠
וְיוֹם ‬טוֹב ‬לְאוֹהֲבָיו
כִּי ‬נִסְלַח ‬לְכָל ‬עֲדַת ‬יִשְׂרָאֵל
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶכָּכָה ‬לּוֹ⁠
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶה' אֱלֹקָיו
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶכָּכָה ‬לּוֹ⁠
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶה' אֱלֹקָיו
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶכָּכָה ‬לּוֹ⁠
אַשְרֵי ‬הָעָם ‬שֶה' אֱלֹקָיו‬


IINM the following is not in nusach sefardi, but rather in Ashkenazi nusach (Sfard):
[גשר]
כְּאֹהֶל ‬הַנִּמְתָּח ‬בְּדָרֵי ‬מַעְלָה ‬מַרְאֵה ‬כֹהֵן
כִּבְרָקִים ‬הַיּוֹצְאִים ‬מִזִּיו ‬הַחַיּוֹת ‬מַרְאֵה ‬כֹהֵן
כִּדְמוּת ‬הַקֶּשֶת ‬בְּתוֹךְ⁠ ‬הֶעָנָן ‬מַרְאֵה ‬כֹהֵן
כְּחֶסֶד ‬הַנִּתָּן ‬עַל ‬פְּנֵי ‬חָתָן ‬מַרְאֵה ‬כֹהֵן

FROM AVODA (modified):
[פזמון]
וְהַכֹּהֲנִים ‬וְהָעָם ‬הָעוֹמְדִים ‬בָּעֲזָרָה
כְּשֶהָיוּ⁠ ‬שׁוֹמְעִים ‬אֶת ‬שֵם ‬ה' ‬הַמְפֹרָשׁ⁠
יוֹצֵא ‬מִפִּי ‬כֹּהֵן ‬גָּדוֹל
הָיוּ⁠ ‬כּוֹרְעִים ‬מִשְתַּחֲוִים ‬וְנוֹפְלִים ‬עַל ‬פְּנֵיהֶם
בָּרוּךְ⁠ ‬שֵם ‬כְּבוֹד ‬מַלְכוּתוֹ⁠ ‬לְעוֹלָם ‬וָעֶד

ETA: here's a link to actual sefardi nusach: https://www.daat.ac.il/daat/sidurim/mizrah/kipur/musaf2.htm#1

[Yehuda57]

This conversation is actually painful

[YitzyS]

This conversation is actually painful

Grammerly probably did like the "actually", no?

[Yehuda57]

When your toddlers come home and proudly show you the sukkah they made, do you berate them for calling it a sukkah even though sour sticks are not kosher schach?

[YitzyS]

When your toddlers come home and proudly show you the sukkah they made, do you berate them for calling it a sukkah even though sour sticks are not kosher schach?

No. But he's not a toddler and this is not a sukkos project.

It is definitely irksome (at the very least) when someone sings a holy text and does not stay true to the wording. It can spread a wrong message, and can cause others to make a mistake. There are a number of songs that change or skip important words, and I always took issue with it.

Just a few examples that come to mind:
"Aimusei Ke'asi Mar" (Yoeli Greenfeld) - the Gemara's wording is "Mei'eimas Ka'asi Mar"
"Va'ani Berov Chasdecha" (Yaakov Schwekey) - the word is "Chasdicha"
"Ki im bezos mishalel hamishalel..." (Benny Friedman/Rechnitz) - it's missing a whole phrase from the passuk that changes the meaning.
(And much less known) In the song "Tamid Be'chol Yom" by Mendy Werdyger, it skips a whole line in the medrash, so the song sounds like the Yidden are going to say Shira, while the Medrash says that the Malachim will say Shira.

And there are many, many more.

[ExGingi]

It is definitely irksome (at the very least) when someone sings a holy text and does not stay true to the wording. It can spread a wrong message, and can cause others to make a mistake. There are a number of songs that change or skip important words, and I always took issue with it.

This is why I am trying to knock into your head that this song is NOT supposed to or intended to be the סדר העבודה. It is a song that conveys an idea of introspection, using borrowed phrases and concepts from סדר העבודה.

[imayid2]

And there are many, many more.

Yehuda Green “There will be a hunger in the world לא צמא למים כי אם לשמוע דבר השם”

It’s a קללה.

[ExGingi]

Yehuda Green “There will be a hunger in the world לא צמא למים כי אם לשמוע דבר השם”

It’s a קללה.

It is not uncommon to extract a positive (or just totally different) idea even from an excerpt out of a totally different context.

כי האדם עץ השדה comes to mind.
מהרסיך ומחריביך ממך יצאו is actually a ברכה but usually used in a negative connotation.

[ExGingi]

When your toddlers come home and proudly show you the sukkah they made, do you berate them for calling it a sukkah even though sour sticks are not kosher schach?

There this great recipe for croissants, it's literally from a recipe for sourdough bread.

Uses flour and water (and many other unrelated ingredients, looks and tastes differently, but uses the exact same flour and water) it's just smaller, fluffier, sweeter, and takes less time and effort to make.

[yuneeq]

Exactly. The song has ZERO correlation to the actual Seder Avoda. It's borrowing phrases and using them for a different message.

I couldn't find a text version of Sefardi nusach, but from the audio it sounds like it's not very different than the Ashkenazi nushach.

Here are the song stanzas:

NOT FROM AVODA:

נִּכְנַס ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שׁנִּכְנַס
וְעָמַד ‬בְּמָקוֹם ‬שֶעָמַד

This is literally word for word (out of context)

רָחַץ ‬יָדָיו ‬רַגְלָיו
טָבַל ‬עָלָה ‬וְנִסְתַּפַּג
בָּא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶהוּא ‬בָּא
וְהָלַךְ⁠ ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶהָלַךְ⁠
פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬הַחֹל
לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬לָבָן

First and last 2 lines is using almost same words, middle is made up. Out of context as well.

NOT FROM AVODA (and actually part of the main idea/theme of the song):

וְאִם ‬אָדָם ‬הָיָה ‬יָכוֹל ‬לִזְכֹּר
אֶת ‬הַפְּגָמִים ‬אֶת ‬הַחֶסְרוֹנוֹת
אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הַפְּשָעִים ‬אֶת ‬כָּל ‬הָעֲווֹנוֹת
בֶּטַח ‬כָּךְ⁠ ‬הָיָה ‬מוֹנֶה
אַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וְאַחַת ‬אַחַת ‬וּשְתַּיִם
אַחַת ‬וְשָלוֹשׁ⁠ ‬אַחַת ‬וְאַרְבַּע ‬אַחַת ‬וְחָמֵשׁ⁠
יָשָר ‬הָיָה ‬מִתְיָאֵשׁ⁠
כִּי ‬לֹא ‬יָכוֹל ‬הָיָה ‬לָשֵׂאת
אֶת ‬הַמְּרִירות ,‬הַחֵטְא
אֶת ‬הַבּוּשָה, ‬ אֶת ‬הַפִסְפוּס
אֶת ‬הַהֶפְסֵד

Middle is word for word. And so on for the rest of the song. But I get it. You don’t like the song, so the song was actually inspired and based on Old Macdonald.

[yuneeq]

"Va'ani Berov Chasdecha" (Yaakov Schwekey) - the word is "Chasdicha"

וַאֲנִי בְּרֹב חַסְדְּךָ

You pronounce shva as Ih not Eh?

[YitzyS]

וַאֲנִי בְּרֹב חַסְדְּךָ

You pronounce shva as Ih not Eh?

Yes. Is it different for Sefardim?

[yuneeq]

Yes. Is it different for Sefardim?

Yes

[ExGingi]

This is literally word for word (out of context)

Did you actually look up the words of סדר העבודה or are you working off memory?

Can you post a source to back up your claims of "word for word"? (besides for using different words the order of actions is totally "wrong", and makes no sense do you also first dip in the mikvah, then wash your hands and only then get undressed? To use @Yehuda57's terms it would be like a kid bringing home a Sukkah made of sour sticks with the schach on the side, a wall with a window on top, and the entrance somewhere unreachable).

First and last 2 lines is using almost same words, middle is made up. Out of context as well.

Middle is word for word. And so on for the rest of the song. But I get it. You don’t like the song, so the song was actually inspired and based on Old Macdonald.

You actually don't get it. I like the song, but if you listen carefully or read it, it isn't really about the actual סדר העבודה, but more like a סדר עבודה of introspection.

It borrows phrases and words from the actual סדר העבודה and plants the theme within the context of the actual סדר העבודה without any attention to the actual details of סדר העבודה.

All this goes back to the answer I posted to the original question: The Lyrics are from Yishai Ribo's head, with elements taken from מוסף of Yom Kippur.

[yuneeq]

Did you actually look up the words of סדר העבודה or are you working off memory?

It’s literally in the link you posted. Stop trolling and use control F.

[Yehuda57]

No. But he's not a toddler and this is not a sukkos project.

You've taken something that is clearly a pet peeve (legitimately so, imho) and allowed it to blind you into thinking it applies to a song that is quite obviously and purposefully not quoting text verbatim.

[ExGingi]

It’s literally in the link you posted. Stop trolling and use control F.

I actually did copy from that link and pasted side by side in a spreadsheet with the Ribo lyrics, highlighting the places where they are (at least almost) identical. Something you obviously did not do!

There's nothing wrong with acknowledging mistakes.

As @Yehuda57 put it:

quite obviously and purposefully not quoting text verbatim.

[aygart]

This is called Ribo on a theme from Seder Hoavoda

[yuneeq]

I actually did copy from that link and pasted side by side in a spreadsheet with the Ribo lyrics, highlighting the places where they are (at least almost) identical. Something you obviously did not do!

There's nothing wrong with acknowledging mistakes.

As @Yehuda57 put it:

How about this. I will look up the words again and spoonfeed your trolling if you donate $1000 to the charity of my choice. And if I can’t back what I wrote here below, I will do the same for you. If you’re not willing to participate I would not be surprised, but you will know it’s time to throw in the towel.

This is literally word for word (out of context)

First and last 2 lines is using almost same words, middle is made up. Out of context as well.

Middle is word for word.

[YitzyS]

makes no sense do you also first dip in the mikvah, then wash your hands and only then get undressed?

He got a little confused when learning this Mishnah:
פֵּרְסוּ לוֹ סָדִין שֶׁל בּוּץ בֵּינוֹ לְבֵין הָעָם, קִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו וּפָשַׁט. רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר, פָּשַׁט, קִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו. יָרַד וְטָבַל עָלָה וְנִסְתַּפָּג. הֵבִיאוּ לוֹ בִגְדֵי לָבָן, לָבַשׁ וְקִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו