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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #140 on: September 28, 2023, 08:58:36 AM »
He got a little confused when learning this Mishnah:
פֵּרְסוּ לוֹ סָדִין שֶׁל בּוּץ בֵּינוֹ לְבֵין הָעָם, קִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו וּפָשַׁט. רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר, פָּשַׁט, קִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו. יָרַד וְטָבַל עָלָה וְנִסְתַּפָּג. הֵבִיאוּ לוֹ בִגְדֵי לָבָן, לָבַשׁ וְקִדֵּשׁ יָדָיו וְרַגְלָיו

How does any of this lead to:

1. טָבַל ‬עָלָה ‬וְנִסְתַּפַּג
2. בָּא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶהוּא ‬בָּא
3. וְהָלַךְ⁠ ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶהָלַךְ⁠
4. פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬הַחֹל
5. לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬לָבָן
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #141 on: September 28, 2023, 09:07:14 AM »
How about this. I will look up the words again and spoonfeed your trolling if you donate $1000 to the charity of my choice. And if I can’t back what I wrote here below, I will do the same for you. If you’re not willing to participate I would not be surprised, but you will know it’s time to throw in the towel.

I was going to agree to the deal, as I am confident in the fact that there's more of a mismatch than a match, but then I came across the following:

http://kcm.fm/News/959

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"תמיד כשהגעתי לקטע הזה במוסף של יום הכיפורים, השלב המרגש שבו אתה מלווה את עבודת הכהן הגדול בבית המקדש, כל כך התרגשתי בתפילה שרציתי להעביר את החוויה שלי שאני מרגיש מעבודת הכהן הגדול – החוצה".

ריבו הקפיד לעבד את היצירה בהפקה תזמורתית מרשימה, עם כלי מיתר ומקהלה גדולה – כדי להעניק למאזין שמץ מתחושת תכונת עבודת הלוויים במקדש. בסדר העבודה מספק ישי פרשנות עכשווית לעבודת הכהנים במקדש, "המטרה זה להנגיש את רעיון סדר העבודה באופן פשוט לכל אחד, כי די קשה לדמיין את מה שקורה שם יחד עם פירוט הקורבנות, המנחות וההזאות. באמצעות השיר רציתי להיכנס לחוויה של הכהן הגדול, שנכנס פעם אחת ויחידה לקודש הקודשים, מה עובר עליו ועל הציבור המתוח שמתפלל שיצליח לעשות את עבודתו ו...לצאת בשלום מהקודש".

So if we're having a deal about the pure match/mismatch I am in (though we'll need to agree on an arbitor, and that selected charity must be a Jewish educational institution). But if it's about where Ribo came up with this, then he obviously picked it up from HIS OWN THOUGHTS while reciting סדר העבודה.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #142 on: September 28, 2023, 04:13:07 PM »
How does any of this lead to:

1. טָבַל ‬עָלָה ‬וְנִסְתַּפַּג
2. בָּא ‬מִמָּקוֹם ‬שֶהוּא ‬בָּא
3. וְהָלַךְ⁠ ‬לְמָקוֹם ‬שֶהָלַךְ⁠
4. פָּשַט ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬הַחֹל
5. לָבַשׁ⁠ ‬בִּגְדֵי ‬לָבָן
It's total randomness, I completely agree with you on that point. My question only was if he intended that, or if he tried to make it accurate.

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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #143 on: September 28, 2023, 05:10:21 PM »
It's total randomness, I completely agree with you on that point. My question only was if he intended that, or if he tried to make it accurate.

I am 100% positive that he DID NOT try to make it accurate.

a song that is quite obviously and purposefully not quoting text verbatim.

As per his own account, he is trying to convey something he is imagining within the setting of סדר העבודה - the feelings and thoughts of the Cohen Godol and of the crowd. Whatever words are taken from the actual סדר העבודה are just random place settings using poetic license.

Quote
"תמיד כשהגעתי לקטע הזה במוסף של יום הכיפורים, השלב המרגש שבו אתה מלווה את עבודת הכהן הגדול בבית המקדש, כל כך התרגשתי בתפילה שרציתי להעביר את החוויה שלי שאני מרגיש מעבודת הכהן הגדול – החוצה".

ריבו הקפיד לעבד את היצירה בהפקה תזמורתית מרשימה, עם כלי מיתר ומקהלה גדולה – כדי להעניק למאזין שמץ מתחושת תכונת עבודת הלוויים במקדש. בסדר העבודה מספק ישי פרשנות עכשווית לעבודת הכהנים במקדש, "המטרה זה להנגיש את רעיון סדר העבודה באופן פשוט לכל אחד, כי די קשה לדמיין את מה שקורה שם יחד עם פירוט הקורבנות, המנחות וההזאות. באמצעות השיר רציתי להיכנס לחוויה של הכהן הגדול, שנכנס פעם אחת ויחידה לקודש הקודשים, מה עובר עליו ועל הציבור המתוח שמתפלל שיצליח לעשות את עבודתו ו...לצאת בשלום מהקודש".


I think I'm done here, unless @yuneeq still want's to take on the challenge of the exact match. (Or apologize for accusing me of trolling).
« Last Edit: September 28, 2023, 06:01:54 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #144 on: September 28, 2023, 05:11:58 PM »
It's total randomness, I completely agree with you on that point. My question only was if he intended that, or if he tried to make it accurate.

This might call for some input from @Randomex  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #145 on: September 28, 2023, 06:28:02 PM »
My input: This thread should already have been split.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #146 on: September 28, 2023, 06:42:20 PM »
Most of it comes from the Seder Ha'avoda in chazarat Musaf on Yom Kippur. At least for Sephardim. And much of this prayer comes from the mishna in Yoma.

ETA: see here https://trmarvin.org/the-unbearable-darkness-of-being/

I just now bothered clicking on the link you posted, and can't believe you've even been arguing about this when it's all right there in the open, in a link YOU posted!!!

Whoever wrote that goes into detail as to what is going on in the song, including "It is not clearly identified with any of the immersions described in the Mishnah," (footnote 3) and many other differences pointed out in the footnotes!

Any words in the lyrics in black are totally out of Ribo's mind, and even the lyrics with a "מראה מקום" almost all have ע"פ meaning it's not verbatim, and the order of the sentences definitely does not match anything in "Seder Ha'avoda in chazarat Musaf on Yom Kippur. At least for Sephardim" (the words of מראה כהן which are verbatim are actually only in the Ashkenazi version).
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #147 on: September 28, 2023, 07:47:03 PM »


I just now bothered clicking on the link you posted, and can't believe you've even been arguing about this when it's all right there in the open, in a link YOU posted!!!

Whoever wrote that goes into detail as to what is going on in the song, including "It is not clearly identified with any of the immersions described in the Mishnah," (footnote 3) and many other differences pointed out in the footnotes!

Any words in the lyrics in black are totally out of Ribo's mind, and even the lyrics with a "מראה מקום" almost all have ע"פ meaning it's not verbatim, and the order of the sentences definitely does not match anything in "Seder Ha'avoda in chazarat Musaf on Yom Kippur. At least for Sephardim" (the words of מראה כהן which are verbatim are actually only in the Ashkenazi version).



This is called Ribo on a theme from Seder Hoavoda

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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2023, 10:39:40 AM »
My input: This thread should already have been split.

A random response to input, but not a random suggestion.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2023, 11:21:02 AM »
I was going to agree to the deal, as I am confident in the fact that there's more of a mismatch than a match, but then I came across the following:

http://kcm.fm/News/959

So if we're having a deal about the pure match/mismatch I am in (though we'll need to agree on an arbitor, and that selected charity must be a Jewish educational institution). But if it's about where Ribo came up with this, then he obviously picked it up from HIS OWN THOUGHTS while reciting סדר העבודה.

I guess you really hate charity. Either that, or what I said is accurate and you just want to preach and troll.
Moving on.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #150 on: October 16, 2023, 01:37:01 PM »
Earlier today, "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield (also known as the theme from The Exorcist, which I have not seen).
(I had not heard it before.)
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #151 on: October 19, 2023, 01:26:51 AM »
Earlier today, "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield (also known as the theme from The Exorcist, which I have not seen).
(I had not heard it before.)

Update: Apparently I was listening to the version released as a single, about
6 minutes long, while the full version is an entire LP about 49 minutes long.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #152 on: October 29, 2023, 07:47:39 PM »
Ten Yad concert.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #153 on: October 29, 2023, 08:43:01 PM »
Ten Yad concert.
Really cool lighting. It's amazing how they create these crazy effects spanning all the screens across all the stages.

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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #154 on: October 29, 2023, 11:02:08 PM »
Really cool lighting. It's amazing how they create these crazy effects spanning all the screens across all the stages.

ETA: For those who want to see:


I'm always amazed how they can transform beis rivkah auditorium into these events.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #155 on: October 30, 2023, 12:02:16 AM »
I'm always amazed how they can transform bnos Menachem auditorium into these events.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #156 on: October 30, 2023, 12:04:03 AM »
ftfy
Ty. Didn't realize this was there.

However my point stands, when these ch auditoriums get transformed, it's pretty amazing.
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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #157 on: October 30, 2023, 12:05:45 AM »
I'm always amazed how they can transform beis rivkah auditorium into these events.

They should just leave it set up

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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #158 on: October 30, 2023, 12:07:24 AM »
Ty. Didn't realize this was there.

However my point stands, when these ch auditoriums get transformed, it's pretty amazing.

You were right, It was at Beis Rivkah.

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Re: What Are You Listening To
« Reply #159 on: October 30, 2023, 12:08:47 AM »
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