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Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?

I'm considering moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
14 (23.7%)
I'm considering making aliya due to recent events
11 (18.6%)
I will be moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
1 (1.7%)
I will be making aliya due to recent events
1 (1.7%)
No plans to move anywhere
32 (54.2%)

Total Members Voted: 56

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2020, 02:35:25 PM »
Cheap housing
Low property tax (at least when compared to NY)
No income Tax
School choice
Warmer winter weather
Yet not too far from NY. Part of the NYC tri-state area.

Need I say more?
School Choices in Tampa?  ::)

FTFY
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2020, 02:40:32 PM »
School Choices in Tampa?  ::)

FTFY
the local shluchim fund part of their cheder via school choice vouchers
(not Tampa but similar areas)

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2020, 02:45:08 PM »
Cheap housing
Low property tax (at least when compared to NY)
No income Tax
School choice
Warmer winter weather

Need I say more?

Most (if not all) of this is true (and perhaps more true) about lots of places.


Yet not too far from NY.

Huh? Do you mean that cheap flights available?

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2020, 02:48:02 PM »
School Choices in Tampa?  ::)

FTFY

There are a few very good government scholarship programs for lower-mid income households.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #64 on: July 05, 2020, 02:50:19 PM »
There are a few very good government scholarship programs for lower-mid income households.

And a wide variety of quality Jewish and Chassidish education available, where said scholarships can be used.... :P
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #65 on: July 05, 2020, 03:01:05 PM »
And a wide variety of quality Jewish and Chassidish education available, where said scholarships can be used.... :P

Bring 200 families with you and make your own school. This movement doesn't work without making your own school. You can't overwhelm an existing school system with that kind of influx.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2020, 03:03:37 PM »
Bring 200 families with you and make your own school. This movement doesn't work without making your own school. You can't overwhelm an existing school system with that kind of influx.

Still not creating a school choice, 200 families would be one school.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2020, 03:07:17 PM »
Still not creating a school choice, 200 families would be one school.

School choice doesn't mean your pick of frum schools. It means government school choice, i.e. vouchers for private school instead of public school.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2020, 03:08:37 PM »
School choice doesn't mean your pick of frum schools. It means government school choice, i.e. vouchers for private school instead of public school.

I'm aware of that, which is why I wrote:

And a wide variety of quality Jewish and Chassidish education available, where said scholarships can be used.... :P

The vouchers are only as useful as the options where they could be used.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2020, 04:27:28 PM »
I'm aware of that, which is why I wrote:

The vouchers are only as useful as the options where they could be used.

I think you are missing the point. If you are planning on starting a new community, doing it in a place where the government will pay for your kids education is a good idea.

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2020, 04:36:53 PM »
I think you are missing the point. If you are planning on starting a new community, doing it in a place where the government will pay for your kids education is a good idea.

Right. But without existing and established educational infrastructure, the costs might outweigh the benefits.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2020, 06:13:43 PM »
Right. But without existing and established educational infrastructure, the costs might outweigh the benefits.

If you are starting a new community, then you are going to need to create a new infrastructure to go with it wherever you go

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2020, 06:23:47 PM »
If you are starting a new community, then you are going to need to create a new infrastructure to go with it wherever you go

Not necessarily if it's close enough to existing infrastructure, allowing time to grow and create its own infrastructure.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2020, 10:55:42 PM »
Is having more school options really a plus or perhaps a minus?


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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2020, 11:45:02 AM »
Changed my vote. Unless Trump drops out, I see Aliyah as a real possibility in about a year from now.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2020, 11:48:33 AM »
Saw a few disturbing videos last night of the Israeli police enforcing the coronavirus restrictions which gave me pause about moving there. As imperfect as it is, the American democracy is a huge blessing.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2020, 12:12:41 PM »
Saw a few disturbing videos last night of the Israeli police enforcing the coronavirus restrictions which gave me pause about moving there. As imperfect as it is, the American democracy is a huge blessing.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2020, 12:15:46 PM »
Saw a few disturbing videos last night of the Israeli police enforcing the coronavirus restrictions which gave me pause about moving there. As imperfect as it is, the American democracy is a huge blessing.

Saw a few disturbing videos about how many people were shot and/or killed this weekend, just walking the streets of this country. There are pros and cons to every place.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2020, 12:18:50 PM »
Saw a few disturbing videos about how many people were shot and/or killed this weekend, just walking the streets of this country. There are pros and cons to every place.
Thats a con of neighborhood not a country. This israel stuff is a problem with the country.